O/U: how many times

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Of course they don't have limited goals - and there leadership is obviously very rational and competent when it comes to fighting the way they have since they openly declared war on us.

The top two guys in their orginization have done a masterful job of outmaneuvering us and trapping us all along.

If they really anticipated that by executing the 9/11 attacks, they could bait our government into an invasion of both Afghanistan in Iraq - with Iraq being the primary focus - I think that must have been like hitting an inside straight and showing unthinkable tactical brilliance.

I remember in the days after 9/11 when an overwhelming amount of people swore bin Laden would be captured and Al Qadea would be dismantled within just weeks. They would argue because they wildly underestimated bin Laden.

It goes without saying that you must make an ALL OUT effort to try and capture or kill bin Laden and Al-Zhuari.

Without Al Qadea - there are simply no such networks that are any threat to us. Anyone who believes there are also probably believes in the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Santa.

There are Al Qadea who have moved into Iraq and blended in since Suddam's government fell - these Al Qadea that are in Iraq now are the sh!t eating, low-IQ, crazed extremist recruits. They are there to cautiously raise hell - and they are most of all planted there to keep us in Iraq for as long as possible.

If we leave Iraq - you will see a spastic amount of violence from this group, they will also declare victory over us - but that would be the single biggest blow to Al Qadea's ultimate goal.

You need not even know who they are what they are about - if you simply just read what bin Laden wrote in his declaration of War against us - you will know that Al Qadea desperately wants us and needs us in Iraq.

I don't know how you can debate effectively with someone when they choose to ignore the facts and take everything our government says as the truth. Here is alot of evidence to prove that you are right and to show how completely ridiculous our current foreign policy. I already posted a link to the origins on Al-Qaeda in another post to support the argument that we (mostly you) are making because I don't think the other messages got through. At the end are videos that I think every American should watch. WAKE UP AMERICA, and start thinking!

You are right. Osama bin Laden is a very soft-spoken man. Also, we have been engaged in more wars since we have established our intervention foreign policy than we ever did when we had the non-intervention foreign policy. In addition, the Pearl Harbor argument is weak because our intervention-based foreign policy obviously didn't stop 9/11 from occurring. On the contrary...

bin Laden on why he attacked the U.S. The correct translation that the government doesn't want you to see...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dls5JTD-uG0

Here is something that the U.S. government would have never let you seen on TV. Thank you youtube. Benazir Bhutta saying that Osama bin Laden was murdered in Pakistan just before she was assassinated. Notice how the reporter in England doesn't question her on what she said. Does the rest of the world know something that Americans don't?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg

And here is the Wikipedia article on our joke of a foreign policy called PNAC which calls for a NWO. Notice that Bill Kristol is the founder. Yes, that is Bill Kristol from Fox News. Whoever doesn't think that the government has control of the media is living in a fantasy world. Notice how it would be very easy for our civil liberties to be infringed upon based on this foreign policy, not to even mention trying the fact that it does really sound like the government is trying to rule the world based on this document. Also, notice very carefully that PNAC "couldn't have been accomplished in a short amount of time unless a new Pearl Harbor occurred". A new study finds that at 60% of Americans find that the government was at least negligent throughout 9/11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...erican_Century

And people have the audacity to wonder why Ron Paul does have quite a few supporters. He is the the only one in the GOP race that has any damn sense concerning foreign policy.

Here is some other evidence to think about concerning 9/11. The Japanese Parliament on January 10, 2008 stated that 9/11 was definitely allowed to occur or an inside job. They present stock trading evidence to support this claim, in addition to tons of other evidence. Yet, why weren't we told of this? Shouldn't this story about the Japanese Parliament's testimonies be circulating in the MSM? Just throwing it out there as it is something to think about.... I haven't come to a final conclusion on these findings yet.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A43IxJcFJEw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t-dZiNE9NI&NR=1

You can find all of the other videos of this discussion made by the Japanese Parliament on youtube.