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Old 03-13-2011, 03:34 PM
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Default Best opening 8f's run in the Ky Derby

Moss published all of his pace figures for past KY Derby's over at DRF. Based on his chart ... below are the 8f Beyers for each year.

I also included who would get the fastest number on Ragozin Sheets / Thoro-Graph sheets.


2010: Noble's Promise (109 Beyer) - fastest sheet number for a mile to Discreetly Mine (4w, 4w, with a 105 Beyer)

2009: Join In The Dance (98 Beyer) - Pioneerof The Nile (3w, 3w, with a 97 Beyer)

2008: Big Brown (104 Beyer) - Big Brown (5w, 4w, with a 104 Beyer)

2007: Hard Spun (104 Beyer) - Any Given Saturday (3w, 5w, with a 97 Beyer)

2006: Barbaro (98 Beyer) - Barbaro (3w, 3w, with a 98 Beyer)

2005: High Fly (109 Beyer) - Bellamy Road (4w, 3w, with a 109 Beyer)

2004: Lion Heart (112 Beyer) - Smarty Jones (2w, 3w with a 112 Beyer)

2003: Peace Rules (106 Beyer) - Empire Maker (4w, 4w with a 103 Beyer)

2002: War Emblem (101 Beyer) - Came Home (5w, 4w, with a 96 Beyer)

2001: Congaree (112 Beyer) - Point Given (4w, 4w, with a 109 Beyer)

2000: Captain Steve (104 Beyer) - Captain Steve (2w, 4w with a 104)

1999: Cat Thief (104 Beyer) - Charismatic (5w, 4w, with a 101)

1998: Real Quiet (117 Beyer) - tie Real Quiet (1w, 4w, with a 117) and Indian Charlie (3w, 3w, with a 115)

1997: Free House (106 Beyer) - Silver Charm (3w, 3w, with a 105)

1996: Unbridled's Song (115 Beyer) - Unbridled's Song (4w, 3w, with a 115)

1995: Serena's Song (106 Beyer) - tie Thunder Gulch (3w, 4w, with a 105) and Afternoon Deelites (4w, 5w, with a 101)


Uncle Mo seems pretty destined to wind up on the right hand side. You know Velazquez will have him stalking wide.

Whoever said Point Given wasn't a miler? If you factor in ground loss - he's basically run the best opening mile in the Ky Derby since '98. He faded by 10 lengths in the final quarter mile though - Monarchos and Invisible Ink went by him in the stretch like he was standing still.
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