ROI Results 8/13 @ Churchill

[Real Quiet]

Tradition be damned. It just doesn't seem right to run the "Arlington Million" at Churchill. I've
never seen the race in person but watching horses like Bricks and Mortar, The Tin Man, Mecke,
Awad and the great 9 year old John Henry win on the lush Arlington turf course was something
special. Maybe it's just me but I don't like it. And not just because I was 0 for everything again.
I can lose anywhere. Oh well. One day I'll be watching the Kentucky Derby run at the Downs of
Kamloops. This is the commentary you get when no player can show a profit on the day. Cal
tried to hit the board but fell a little short. Zippy hit an exacta but was just treading water. Not
even Joly or Digger could sniff a profit. Cruz had a few good horses and Indian Hemp was in
with a shot but for the second time this year it was Golden Sombrero time. Following are the
results. Let me know if I missed a score. See you all next week. Better luck next week.



Cal828 -$29.52 R10 $4 Tri 2,3,5//6//2,3,5 $8.81 X 8..... $70.48

Zippy -$79.22 R11 2-4-6-7 $2exbx..... $20.78

Real Quiet -$99.00

Roamin -$100.00

Joly B -$100.00

Digger -$100.00

Plenilune -$100.00

Indian Hemp -$100.00

Ruffian -$100.00

Don Guido -$100.00

Cruzan -$100.00

[RUFFIAN]

ADDITIONALLY

AS SCOREKEEPER IN MY OWN RACE SITE CONTEST
{ thoroughbredracingfans.com }

💥 DUE TO CHURCHILL VOTING ON ALL KENTUCKY TRACKS
~~~~~ TO NOW INCLUDE PENNIES IN PAYOUT 🙀

SCORING WAS AN ABSOLUTE HORRENDOUS NIGHTMARE

I hope we don’t have to go back to that track again other than the Derby 🐎

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN

ADDITIONALLY

AS SCOREKEEPER IN MY OWN RACE SITE CONTEST
{ thoroughbredracingfans.com }

💥 DUE TO CHURCHILL VOTING ON ALL KENTUCKY TRACKS
~~~~~ TO NOW INCLUDE PENNIES IN PAYOUT 🙀

SCORING WAS AN ABSOLUTE HORRENDOUS NIGHTMARE

I hope we don’t have to go back to that track again other than the Derby 🐎

Even though this may be a scorekeeper's nightmare, it is a plus for the horseplayer. Over the course of a season, the difference between the old "round down to the lowest $0.20 on a $2 bet or the lowest $0.10 on a $1 bet" and the new "round to the lowest penny" breakage can make a very big difference in your ROI.

Let's say that the actual return on a show bet was $1.48577. The payoff under the old breakage would be $1.40 for $1, so your $2 show wager would be $2.80. Under the new method the bettor would get $1.48 for every dollar, or a payoff of $2.96 for your $2 show bet. Viva la difference. I'm more than happy to keep the extra change that the track has been pocketing all these years.

While you can advocate a boycott of Churchill for our contests, we do need to remember that this rule is the result of legislation passed by the Kentucky General Assembly and applies to all Kentucky tracks. I'm sure that we will want to play Keeneland this fall, especially for the two days of the Breeders' Cup.

[RUFFIAN]

JOLY
I never advocated a “ boycott “ here

I was merely expressing my frustration as a scorekeeper with the new system
And just that I hope personally I don’t have to play at that track too often

It had nothing to do with this website or the contests

Sorry if the wording was misunderstood or misinterpreted

[JolyB]

Ruff, no apology is needed. I didn't read your post as critical of the website or our contests. All is good. I did want to point out that the new penny breakage rule applies to every Kentucky track, and we often visit Kentucky Downs for Kentucky Cup Day as well as Keeneland during its fall meet. I'm sure we will encounter this rule during the Breeders' Cup at Keeneland.

I'm afraid that Real Quiet will have to recalibrate his abacus (I'll be glad to loan him my Curta) to score the ROI with penny breakage for all of those Kentucky race days.

[Real Quiet]

I for one welcome the extra cash in my pocket. I mean I would if I ever hit a winning wager. Decimal and pennies are easy to calculate since I use a 2022 Intel Celeron Abacus running Windows 47. A lot of superfecta winning wagers are paid in pennies anyway.

[cal828]

I could be wrong, but I thought I heard years ago that the breakage from Oaklawn either went to the city or the county. If so, I imagine there would be some loud and long howling, if that was taken away. Glad somebody explained that. I was wondering why the payoffs were so strange.

[Zippy]

Thanks for scoring Pete!!! Good job figuring things out with the new payout system!!

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Real Quiet

Tradition be damned. It just doesn't seem right to run the "Arlington Million" at Churchill. I've
never seen the race in person but watching horses like Bricks and Mortar, The Tin Man, Mecke,
Awad and the great 9 year old John Henry win on the lush Arlington turf course was something
special. Maybe it's just me but I don't like it. And not just because I was 0 for everything again.
I can lose anywhere. Oh well. One day I'll be watching the Kentucky Derby run at the Downs of
Kamloops. This is the commentary you get when no player can show a profit on the day. Cal
tried to hit the board but fell a little short. Zippy hit an exacta but was just treading water. Not
even Joly or Digger could sniff a profit. Cruz had a few good horses and Indian Hemp was in
with a shot but for the second time this year it was Golden Sombrero time. Following are the
results. Let me know if I missed a score. See you all next week. Better luck next week.



Cal828 -$29.52 R10 $4 Tri 2,3,5//6//2,3,5 $8.81 X 8..... $70.48

Zippy -$79.22 R11 2-4-6-7 $2exbx..... $20.78

Real Quiet -$99.00

Roamin -$100.00

Joly B -$100.00

Digger -$100.00

Plenilune -$100.00

Indian Hemp -$100.00

Ruffian -$100.00

Don Guido -$100.00

Cruzan -$100.00

A Ruff day at the office!!! Sorry Ruffian, couldn't resist.

[RUFFIAN]

DON = “ Ruff day at the office!!! Sorry Ruffian, couldn't resist. “
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