Am I crazy?? Street Sense's next start

[Pointg5]

I think we saw the last of Street Sense yesterda...AGS will light him up at Monmouth...

[miraja2]

I thought after the great "success" they had with it on the day of the '06 Illinois Derby, that Hawthorne was going to become exclusively an ostrich racetrack.

Originally Posted by brockguy

I doubt that connnections need the money but the Mass Cap this year have a nice bonus on offer, some 200k for (lets hope I remember this right) a horse that wins a G1 at a mile or more in 2007 and wins the MassCap..

The real bonus lies in Louisiana in the Super Derby. Street Sense qualifies for a $500K bonus if he wins, so it would be another $1,000,000 race under his belt. It gives him 4 weeks off and then 5 weeks off before the Classic.

The owner could show his real class and donate the $500K bonus money to Katrina victims and turn this horse into the most popular horse in the world. The track and NTRA should really offer a $500K bonus to him which they have and another $500K to Katrina victims if he wins. Can you imagine the media attention it would get with a horse running for the people of New Orleans.

A poster here would get to call the race too.

[Travis Stone]

My lobbyist cap is on!

Our race (The Super Derby) really does fit nicely with the BC Classic. The purse swells to $1 million if the big hoss comes. Nafzger's been here before with Unbridled, and that worked out well.

It would be great for the track, for the area etc., and of course, I would love to call the race!

It would be dissapointing for Street Sense to run at the bush league tracks like Hawthorne, Suffolk, Turdway and Lousyana. The logical choice is the JCGC at Belmont.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How come? What didn't he do yesterday that he should have?

Pure speculation, but I think he's going bad, they probably knew he could make it through the Derby and that's why he didn't start until March and only had 2 preps... They said all along they wanted this race as well. I think yesterday was his BCC.

Grasshopper might be a nice horse and got away with slow fractions, but SS should have not had as much trouble getting past him. I love the horse and have to commend both Nafzger and Borel, but I would be surprised to see him run again. I don't think he could beat AGS right now and what more is there to prove for him?

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Pure speculation, but I think he's going bad, they probably knew he could make it through the Derby and that's why he didn't start until March and only had 2 preps... They said all along they wanted this race as well. I think yesterday was his BCC.

Grasshopper might be a nice horse and got away with slow fractions, but SS should have not had as much trouble getting past him. I love the horse and have to commend both Nafzger and Borel, but I would be surprised to see him run again. I don't think he could beat AGS right now and what more is there to prove for him?

Street Sense ran him usual 105-110 beyer. That is good enough to win grade 1's. Some others are catching up with him, but he isn't going backwards. He is what he is, a 110 beyer horse. A 110 beyer could easily win the Classic this year.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

It would be dissapointing for Street Sense to run at the bush league tracks like Hawthorne, Suffolk, Turdway and Lousyana. The logical choice is the JCGC at Belmont.

Potentially running against Curlin in the JCGC is really quite an illogical move. If SS beats Curlin in the JCGC and then loses to him in the BC Classic, does that not sway many voters?

NT

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Potentially running against Curlin in the JCGC is really quite an illogical move. If SS beats Curlin in the JCGC and then loses to him in the BC Classic, does that not sway many voters?

NT

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I'm just a racing fan. I don't give a **** about awards and popularity contests.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

My lobbyist cap is on!

Our race (The Super Derby) really does fit nicely with the BC Classic. The purse swells to $1 million if the big hoss comes. Nafzger's been here before with Unbridled, and that worked out well.

It would be great for the track, for the area etc., and of course, I would love to call the race!

Worked out pretty well for Tiznow too. Who else is likely to show in the Super Derby? Also what are the odds if, say they opted for the JCGC, that Curlin would find a reason to delay the head to head? Doesn't seem like Tafel and Nafzger run scared so money might be on Curlin's folks to blink. I'm not sure they'll find themselves in a position to do that if the Super Derby looks better to Nafzger but just a thought.

Nafzger mentioned the mass cap, kentucky gold cup, hawthorne gold cup and jcgc as possibilities. No mention of the Super Derby.

[Travis Stone]

I'm sure Carl had it figured out moments after winning the race. The typical, "Where to next?" question is the worst in the game. That's the last thing they're thinking about. I wouldn't put too much stock in the list of races.

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm sure Carl had it figured out moments after winning the race. The typical, "Where to next?" question is the worst in the game. That's the last thing they're thinking about. I wouldn't put too much stock in the list of races.

Maybe the DRF should hire you?

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Maybe the DRF should hire you?

Do you have any connections there? Can you get me the job?

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Do you have any connections there? Can you get me the job?

That depends on your appearance. We currently have an opening for a grizzled beat writer for the arizona/new mexico circuit.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are way off. People on here and other forums said similar things after they decided to not go in the Belmont. Well, he's won twice since then. We also heard so many times before the Derby, that he should not have lost the Bluegrass, etc. I really don't see how his effort yesterday shows anything you are saying.

We'll see...


I think he's finished, he's won the BCJ, Derby, and Travers...There's no more upside, only downside to running him...

Originally Posted by Pointg5

We'll see...


I think he's finished, he's won the BCJ, Derby, and Travers...There's no more upside, only downside to running him...

You must be his archrival...NoSense.

[Slewbopper]

[quote=Cardus]It's sad that if he were to run at any of the above "bush league tracks" for his next race, each track would probably have a larger attendance than Belmont's Jockey Club Gold Cup Day on Sept. 30. Each venue might have a 20,000 plus attendance if Street Sense were to run there.

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NYRA will have 16,000 with Street Sense AND a giveaway and have to face Curlin. The Super Derby is the logical choice. Calvin gets to race at home. the purse goes from 500K to a mil. The place will be packed. Plus, four 3 yos that I can think of have done quite well going from the SD to the BCC...Sunday, Unbridled, Concern, and Tiznow.

If Carl is going to run him again before the BCC, the SD to me, is a no brainer.

Originally Posted by Cardus

It's sad that if he were to run at any of the above "bush league tracks" for his next race, each track would probably have a larger attendance than Belmont's Jockey Club Gold Cup Day on Sept. 30. Each venue might have a 20,000 plus attendance if Street Sense were to run there.

What disturbs me is that Gold Cup Day is Sept.30, a Sunday. Though it's true that a Sunday at Belmont Park -- deemed "Family Fun Day" -- usually draws as many if not more people than Saturdays draw, NYRA is going up against the NFL.

Track attendance means diddly squat. The handle at Belmont would dwarf Lousiana.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

What disturbs me is that Gold Cup Day is Sept.30, a Sunday. Though it's true that a Sunday at Belmont Park -- deemed "Family Fun Day" -- usually draws as many if not more people than Saturdays draw, NYRA is going up against the NFL.

That's ok because both the Jets and Giants will be done by then