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Old 01-28-2009, 04:33 AM
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Default Who will lead the older horse division this year?

I think Tiago has a real chance to be horse of the year. Well Armed is off form. And now I'm read Colonel John is sidelined from the spring races at SA. Tiago can sweep the races leading up to the Big Cap and he can win that race as well. Then he can go to Oaklawn and win that one again. And he can probably win the Goodwood, and there is no Raven's Pass to deal with this year in the Classic..
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:52 AM
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I think Tiago has a real chance to be horse of the year. Well Armed is off form. And now I'm read Colonel John is sidelined from the spring races at SA. Tiago can sweep the races leading up to the Big Cap and he can win that race as well. Then he can go to Oaklawn and win that one again. And he can probably win the Goodwood, and there is no Raven's Pass to deal with this year in the Classic..

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Old 01-28-2009, 07:26 AM
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A $40k claimer from KY, I just don't know which one. maybe Stratostar. This is his year!
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:35 AM
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I think Tiago has a real chance to be horse of the year. Well Armed is off form. And now I'm read Colonel John is sidelined from the spring races at SA. Tiago can sweep the races leading up to the Big Cap and he can win that race as well. Then he can go to Oaklawn and win that one again. And he can probably win the Goodwood, and there is no Raven's Pass to deal with this year in the Classic..

i thought tiago retired to stud? as for the classic, and there being no raven's pass-there wasn't a 'raven's pass' at this time last year-he came into his own later in the year.

edit~just look, tiago is at adena.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:06 AM
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With the new drug rules in place we'll see if a real clean horse emerges . I'm hoping for a level playing field for a change .

Maybe Tin Cup Chalice .
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:18 AM
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With the new drug rules in place we'll see if a real clean horse emerges . I'm hoping for a level playing field for a change .

Maybe Tin Cup Chalice .
i think letswastemoney was posing a serious question.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:23 AM
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I think Tiago has a real chance to be horse of the year. Well Armed is off form. And now I'm read Colonel John is sidelined from the spring races at SA. Tiago can sweep the races leading up to the Big Cap and he can win that race as well. Then he can go to Oaklawn and win that one again. And he can probably win the Goodwood, and there is no Raven's Pass to deal with this year in the Classic..
I think Nicanor will be HOY in 2009.

Or Dunkirk.

Or maybe Flat Out.
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:25 AM
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Has to be Smooth Air.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:42 AM
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It's Zenyatta's award to lose as HOY but as for top older male, I'm guessing the leading contenders will be Commentator, Harlem Rocker, Tale of Ekati, and Colonel John.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:51 AM
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Col. John is out as of now. Not sure how long he'll be sidelined. Rocer and Ekati are nice but are best at about 1m.
Will the Suburban this year be slower than the (in)famous 2007 Pacific Classic?
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:09 PM
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Col. John is out as of now. Not sure how long he'll be sidelined. Rocer and Ekati are nice but are best at about 1m.
Will the Suburban this year be slower than the (in)famous 2007 Pacific Classic?
I don't have a strong feeling about any of them but I just can't think of any other horses that fit as real contenders. Someone will probably come out of nowhere but of the established horses, this is all I can think of.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:13 PM
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:14 PM
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i thought tiago retired to stud? as for the classic, and there being no raven's pass-there wasn't a 'raven's pass' at this time last year-he came into his own later in the year.

edit~just look, tiago is at adena.
oops my mistake...I looked at the drf rankings and saw he was 2nd and assumed he was still training
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:17 PM
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Bullsbay is in the Donn this weekend IIRC.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:19 PM
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oops my mistake...I looked at the drf rankings and saw he was 2nd and assumed he was still training
no biggie.. i would only begin to question your sanity if you agreed with sumitas re tin cup chalice.
besides, not a stretch to expect tiago to remain in training-i don't think he's done enough to warrant a trip to the barn.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:41 PM
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no biggie.. i would only begin to question your sanity if you agreed with sumitas re tin cup chalice.
besides, not a stretch to expect tiago to remain in training-i don't think he's done enough to warrant
a trip to the barn.
I thought I read somewhere that Tiago was working towards a return in the Feb 8 San Antonio and then the Big Cap. I believe he has a recent work tab.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:53 PM
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Tiago worked out this morning at Hollywood. It was his sixth workout since early December. He's not retired.

Here's to hoping it's Arson Squad or My Pal Charlie. Chances are slim but I have them in a fantasy league.

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He is too slow. His last two wins were just coincidences
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