This Upsets Me, What About You?

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well since you wrote most of em you'd deserve the dollars!!!

what is sad is I spent 20 minutes typing a response to you but no longer care. you and i have had our differences, you made your point i made mine. out of respect to Steve i refuse to post it on this thread, to drop to your name calling level anymore. i no longer act that way. leave it be mike, just leave it be.

[Cajungator26]

Listen Here Motha Fuggas... I Ain't Gonna Put Up With No Shiat Tonight! You Here What I Be Sayin? Word Up Bros!

[Mike_79]

Flower Alley should roll in the Woodward this weekend. I'm also expecting a solid performance from Second of June in his 3rd start back from the extended layoff.

This will set up a tremendous race in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. All the talk will be about Bernardini vs. Invasor. That's a beautiful thing since Flower Alley will be let go in the 7/2 - 4/1 range and take it to the big boys. I will then mail a Todd Pletcher bobblehead doll to every Bernardini maniac that I know. I'll attach a note informing them that Barbaro would have kicked his a$$ as well.

Since this thread is about slots/education, I guess I should keep my post somewhat slot/education related. I don't like slots. I like education. That's all I got. Word.

Have had fun reading a lot of you guys and gals and decided to get involved.

Good luck at the windows...

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by Mike_79

Flower Alley should roll in the Woodward this weekend. I'm also expecting a solid performance from Second of June in his 3rd start back from the extended layoff.

This will set up a tremendous race in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. All the talk will be about Bernardini vs. Invasor. That's a beautiful thing since Flower Alley will be let go in the 7/2 - 4/1 range and take it to the big boys. I will then mail a Todd Pletcher bobblehead doll to every Bernardini maniac that I know. I'll attach a note informing them that Barbaro would have kicked his a$$ as well.

Since this thread is about slots/education, I guess I should keep my post somewhat slot/education related. I don't like slots. I like education. That's all I got. Word.

Have had fun reading a lot of you guys and gals and decided to get involved.

Good luck at the windows...

no doubt. i have been a one armed bandit one too many times.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Listen Here Motha Fuggas... I Ain't Gonna Put Up With No Shiat Tonight! You Here What I Be Sayin? Word Up Bros!

'Dat's my sistah talkin'. How 'bout dat Lawyer Ron?

[sumitas]

Sure, at public schools tuition should be free to state residents. And we should have national health care. And everyone should have 5 weeks vacation.

Next issue.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Man, I hate slot machines and see no evidence they're good for horse racing. Does anyone really believe the horses running at Mountaineer (or CharlesTown or whereever) are better than they were 25 years ago? The top guys at Mountaineer go to Chicago and Kentucky and get a bunch of nickel claimers by claim or purchase and they win at the Mount right away.

I lump the lottery in with slot machines. Does anyone see any improvement in their schools due to lottery proceeds? No, the money just goes in the general fund, no matter what the pols tell you.

The dirty little secret about slot machines and the lottery are that they are huge tax revenues gained from the spending of low-income people. They should know better, but they don't.

You are right. This is how the Bible toting Babtist can justify a vote for this "SIN".

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by GPK

Jessica....so...because there where "no bombs killing hundreds and thousands" of people, you surely would have enjoyed living over in Iraq under Suddams dictatorship, right??? Your body fully covered from head to toe...told when and where to speak...being treated worse than a second class citizen because your a women????? Surely you would like to rethink your statements??

Kev, I loves ya, and you're right about the citizens Hussein killed, but this statement about women in Iraq is not entirely accurate. Hussein was a tyrant, but he was a secular tyrant. For the majority of his dictatorship, living conditions for women in Iraq, even under Hussein, were actually better than in most of the Arabic nations-- in Iraq women were doctors, lawyers, etc. Education for both sexes was required by law. And no burkas were required. After the first Gulf War, with sanctions from the international community on Iraq trashing the economy, and with pressure on him from various religious factions, to consolidate his power he permitted more Islamic rules to come into governing, and the rights of women steadily declined. That said, even at the time of the invasion, they still had more than in many Arab nations. And now, with Iraq in chaos and the radical Islamics gaining power, the rights continue to decline.

Again, not defending Hussein, but he was an entirely different animal from Bin Laden and the religious zealots.

I don't think KRIM was saying Iraq was a paradise; she was saying what's up with spending all this money on this war we created, while we're slashing programs for our own fellow Americans to pay for it? (Correct me if I'm wrong, KRIM, I frequently am). Not that we actually are paying for it; gov't has swelled in size the past six years. God help our kids and grandkids when the bill comes due. All the slot machines in the world aren't going to cover it.

I don't know enough about the slots issue in Ohio to have any insights-- though I wonder if the tuition assistance goes to all colleges, or just the state-funded ones, and to students who go to school out of Ohio or just ones studing in state? Anyone know?

I really believe that education up to a Bachelor's should be paid for by the state if you choose to go to a college or university that is in the state you live. Basically, if you live in Columbus and want to go to Ohio State then Ohio should flip the bill. If you live in Columbus and want to go to Notre Dame then you are on your own.

You have to look at the state of our country. We went from a farming to industrial/manufacturing to now a tech/service economy. The employers are demanding a certain skill or higher education from its workers. They day of graduating high school and getting a job at the local plant and working there for 30 years is basically over. Most people change careers 5 times in their working life. I would encourage everyone to get another degree in something other than what they are currently doing. You should always have a fall back plan.

Also, studies show that certain socio-economic problems do not occur when a person has a college degree. Furthermore, states will benefit from tax revenue created by corporations coming to the state and having higher paying jobs.

I really do not like the idea of starting out a life in debt and that is what essentially is happening to recent college graduates. Then the majority can never get out of debt. They file for banksuptcy and that effects every comsumer out there. The pay for jobs is not increasing with the level of interest rates and inflation. Basically, according to the recent Compensation Planning Survey purblished by Mercer Human Resource Consulting, pay increases are stagnant as corporate profits rise.

I also believe that a person should be working through college. They do not need to work full-time but they need to work at least part time. Working gives a person a sense of responsibility and it teaches them a little bit about fiscal responsibility. The tuition and books are the only things that should be paid for. Rent, food, etc etc should be paid for by the studen/parent.

The idea behind all this is that a person with a college degree will have greater earning potential. The higher the income the more tax revenue a state can collect. The person who would take advantage of the state funded college will pay it back in taxes over time. Now the key is keeping the kids in the state in order to collect the tax revenue.

Lastly, anything that helps edcuate and better our society should be looked at closely. I am not for socialism, but I am for anything that is able to help a community, state or even our country.

These are just my thoughts on the subject

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I really believe that education up to a Bachelor's should be paid for by the state if you choose to go to a college or university that is in the state you live. Basically, if you live in Columbus and want to go to Ohio State then Ohio should flip the bill. If you live in Columbus and want to go to Notre Dame then you are on your own.

You have to look at the state of our country. We went from a farming to industrial/manufacturing to now a tech/service economy. The employers are demanding a certain skill or higher education from its workers. They day of graduating high school and getting a job at the local plant and working there for 30 years is basically over. Most people change careers 5 times in their working life. I would encourage everyone to get another degree in something other than what they are currently doing. You should always have a fall back plan.

Also, studies show that certain socio-economic problems do not occur when a person has a college degree. Furthermore, states will benefit from tax revenue created by corporations coming to the state and having higher paying jobs.

I really do not like the idea of starting out a life in debt and that is what essentially is happening to recent college graduates. Then the majority can never get out of debt. They file for banksuptcy and that effects every comsumer out there. The pay for jobs is not increasing with the level of interest rates and inflation. Basically, according to the recent Compensation Planning Survey purblished by Mercer Human Resource Consulting, pay increases are stagnant as corporate profits rise.

I also believe that a person should be working through college. They do not need to work full-time but they need to work at least part time. Working gives a person a sense of responsibility and it teaches them a little bit about fiscal responsibility. The tuition and books are the only things that should be paid for. Rent, food, etc etc should be paid for by the studen/parent.

The idea behind all this is that a person with a college degree will have greater earning potential. The higher the income the more tax revenue a state can collect. The person who would take advantage of the state funded college will pay it back in taxes over time. Now the key is keeping the kids in the state in order to collect the tax revenue.

Lastly, anything that helps edcuate and better our society should be looked at closely. I am not for socialism, but I am for anything that is able to help a community, state or even our country.

These are just my thoughts on the subject

Thanks for taking the time to clarify euro. What you said above does make a great deal of sense.

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Thanks for taking the time to clarify euro. What you said above does make a great deal of sense.

What I would want to know is if anyone can take advantage of the program and go to college. If you are 45 and never went to college, can you go for free? I think the answer should be yes.

[Gander]

I dont think anyone should waste their time going to college. It would be better served to take that tuition money and give it to the University of NYRA or Churchill Downs State College. Theres no better education than the one given at the racetrack.

If you need further proof of this just check out most of the people you see at the racetrack on a daily basis. Those are the types of people who should be running our great country.

You can learn math, economics, psychology, art, and statistics at the racetrack.

[sumitas]

You make a lot of sense euro. It can happen, it's a question of priorities.

One more item from my wish list. I think it's a good idea if the first $30,000 of a person's earned income is exempt from social security taxes. Eliminate the ceiling on s.s. taxes. This way every worker has a s.s. tax break, not just the high income elites.

Originally Posted by sumitas

You make a lot of sense euro. It can happen, it's a question of priorities.

One more item from my wish list. I think it's a good idea if the first $30,000 of a person's earned income is exempt from social security taxes. Eliminate the ceiling on s.s. taxes. This way every worker has a s.s. tax break, not just the high income elites.

Man I would love that so much Sumitas. And I couldnt agree more.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by sumitas

You make a lot of sense euro. It can happen, it's a question of priorities.

One more item from my wish list. I think it's a good idea if the first $30,000 of a person's earned income is exempt from social security taxes. Eliminate the ceiling on s.s. taxes. This way every worker has a s.s. tax break, not just the high income elites.

So when do you declare your candidacy, so I can get the bumper sticker?

And yeah, no age limits on being a college student!

Gander, I think there are lots of brilliant people at the track, but I sure wouldn't want to put them in charge of dental health... at least not the ones I see at Belmont.

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by Gander

I dont think anyone should waste their time going to college. It would be better served to take that tuition money and give it to the University of NYRA or Churchill Downs State College. Theres no better education than the one given at the racetrack.

If you need further proof of this just check out most of the people you see at the racetrack on a daily basis. Those are the types of people who should be running our great country.

You can learn math, economics, psychology, art, and statistics at the racetrack.

OK Tim, this is my favorite Horse Racing post ever. I laughed for at least 3 or 4 minutes after reading this over and over. Images come to mind, similar images you have. You get a smiley face