Funny Cide will go in the Brooklyn

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I will tell you what worries me the most about Funny Cide.
Even when he was in bad racing form, he always zoomed in works, too damn fast, but he zoomed.
This last work well...... I don't see a work where the trainer wanted to have him retired afterwards as a good omen.

Stop twisting the facts. You know Cornelio told him afterward that he pulled him up to keep something in the tank for Saturday. After his Belmont debacle years ago, this work was a good thing. Funny Cide loves this track. He will run huge.

[The Bid]

Maybe they were just prepping him for this race 2 weeks after getting crushed in a grade 1? Nostradamus, whats going on over at the Tagg barn

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Maybe they were just prepping him for this race 2 weeks after getting crushed in a grade 1? Nastrodumbass, whats going on over at the Tagg barn

"I had him in the Kentucky Horse Park by the time he got to the gap, but when I got back to the barn [Velasquez] he was so excited," Tagg said. "I said to him 'What's wrong with him?' He said, 'I just eased up on him, the race is on Saturday.' "

This race has always been the plan since the Woodward. They did not want to run in the Woodward, but the owners did. The original plan was Hawthorne and an overnight at Saratoga. Another horse that was crushed in that grade 1, NaughtyNewYorker, won yesterday.

Originally Posted by The Bid

Maybe they were just prepping him for this race 2 weeks after getting crushed in a grade 1? whats going on over at the Tagg barn

He knows but he will only tell you if act nice.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What debacle was that? Where he ran 3rd against probably the best 3 year old that year, and the eventual Travers winner, while rank on the lead. I love your touts. This one will run huge, and this one wins easy. You obviously know little to nothing about everything you are talking about.

He loved Rumspringa today over on the selections thread. He loved Showing Up agaisnt his elders last week.
Funny thing is that Tagg had a great Saratoga meet with some nice priced horses and he never touted any of those.
Near as I can tell, he only likes the one who lose.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No, the things that you say make you an idiot. Captain Obvious. Acting like you are "in the know" makes you an idiot.

I am in the know because I know people in the barn. Tagg doesn't tell me anything directly. He just says hello because he knows my face. You can go sit outside at belmont any morning, right past the finish line and find out anything I know. I just get to go by the barns because I know people, especially people in the vet village.

[The Bid]

Showing up was in too tough a spot, and Rumspringer had no chance in that field today. Even with the clean break he would have been ground into submission.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by oracle80

He loved Rumspringa today over on the selections thread. He loved Showing Up agaisnt his elders last week.
Funny thing is that Tagg had a great Saratoga meet with some nice priced horses and he never touted any of those.
Near as I can tell, he only likes the one who lose.

I had a bunch of Tagg horses this summer but he brings all them to Saratoga so I miss out. I will bet his girl on Saturday too because the monster is not in there. Rumspringa was 12-1 and I said he would run well, not to bet him. He did not even do that.

I did very well with his 2yr old Saturday, but lost most back on Showing Up.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You know, you beat me to it. Tagg did have a fantastic meet, and I don't recall him giving out any of them. And his 2 year old winner he didn't give out either. Hmmm, do you think he is full of sh*t?

I was not allowed to give out his 2yr old. It was no secret, everybody knew about him. I helped him open at 5-2. Oracle even said Martin told him about the horse. I do not give out live 2yr olds and never will. He does have another.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

I was not allowed to give out his 2yr old. It was no secret, everybody knew about him. I helped him open at 5-2. Oracle even said Martin told him about the horse. I do not give out live 2yr olds and never will. He does have another.

So what do you think of Smarty Jones as a stallion?

[Gander]

How many different riders now on Funny Cide?
Awesome Twist will be way overbet, he is so overhyped off of one win in a race loaded with speed that set up for him on a tee. I cant wait to bet against this horse on Saturday.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by oracle80

So what do you think of Smarty Jones as a stallion?

I don't really talk about them, but there is a super one out of Green Dancer mare.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

I don't really talk about them, but there is a super one out of Green Dancer mare.

Does your family have any idea that you are disgracing a name that good on that internet?
I bet not. They'd probably strangle you if they did.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Does your family have any idea that you are disgracing a name that good on that internet?
I bet not. They'd probably strangle you if they did.

What name am I disgracing? I know what I should not be posting and I never post anything to embarass anyone. Most think I am pretty smart, but I am the math wiz, not the pedigree wiz. I don't have the eye that my brother or cousin have.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

That race was originally scheduled for last week. This is a perfect race for him. He runs 1-2 or 3 and he had a good race. He doesn't win an overnight and it is a failure. The extra few days rest help too.

Thanks...I know the Douglas MacAurthur was scheduled for opening day at Belmont, as it always is. I also know that it is not an " overnight " stake. The race I am referring to was run at Saratoga, the track you claimed the Woodward was the only race for Funny Cide, and I pointed out that the overnight stake, at SARATOGA, was another, and more realistic, option.

If Funny Cide ran in the race at Saratoga that he belonged in, the overnight stake and not the Woodward where he had no chance, he would have been a big favorite and probably would have won. So what if he lost. It isn't as though anybody actually considers him a top horse anymore. The idea in placing horses is to find spots that if they run their best races they can win. If he ran the best race he is capable of NOW in the Woodward he might have been fifth.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Thanks...I know the Douglas MacAurthur was scheduled for opening day at Belmont, as it always is. I also know that it is not an " overnight " stake. The race I am referring to was run at Saratoga, the track you claimed the Woodward was the only race for Funny Cide, and I pointed out that the overnight stake, at SARATOGA, was another, and more realistic, option.

If Funny Cide ran in the race at Saratoga that he belonged in, the overnight stake and not the Woodward where he had no chance, he would have been a big favorite and probably would have won. So what if he lost. It isn't as though anybody actually considers him a top horse anymore. The idea in placing horses is to find spots that if they run their best races they can win. If he ran the best race he is capable of NOW in the Woodward he might have been fifth.

The owners chose the Woodward and had their Funny Cide day. Everyone knows that. Tagg chose this race with the Empire Classic in mind on October 21. The owners had the Hawthorne race in mind. They still do according to the Funny Cide website. This race gives him plenty of time and a race on the track at the same distance, with 5 weeks rest for the race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

The owners chose the Woodward and had their Funny Cide day. Everyone knows that. Tagg chose this race with the Empire Classic in mind on October 21. The owners had the Hawthorne race in mind. They still do according to the Funny Cide website. This race gives him plenty of time and a race on the track at the same distance, with 5 weeks rest for the race.

You said the Woodward was the only race for him at Saratoga. I pointed out why what YOU SAID was incorrect.

The simple fact is that the connections of Funny Cide are determined to run him over his head because they refuse to admit that he isn't that good anymore. If they were concerned with what was best for the horse then he would have run in the overnight stake. Regardless, I was simply pointing out the inaccuracy of your post. There was a race for him at Saratoga besides the Woodward.

By the way....still plenty of Funny Cide posters left.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You said the Woodward was the only race for him at Saratoga. I pointed out why what YOU SAID was incorrect.

The simple fact is that the connections of Funny Cide are determined to run him over his head because they refuse to admit that he isn't that good anymore. If they were concerned with what was best for the horse then he would have run in the overnight stake. Regardless, I was simply pointing out the inaccuracy of your post. There was a race for him at Saratoga besides the Woodward.

By the way....still plenty of Funny Cide posters left.

No, the owners, not the connections, are determined to run him over his head. The trainer has said publicly that he is not a grade 1 horse. The Woodward was the only race because the owners wanted to run him in a big race and the Whitney was much more competitive. They had 10,000 posters to hand out and wanted him to run in a big race at Saratoga before he was done. Nothing wrong with that. People forget this horse has two good wins already this year. One a graded stake.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

No, the owners, not the connections, are determined to run him over his head. The trainer has said publicly that he is not a grade 1 horse. The Woodward was the only race because the owners wanted to run him in a big race and the Whitney was much more competitive. They had 10,000 posters to hand out and wanted him to run in a big race at Saratoga before he was done. Nothing wrong with that. People forget this horse has two good wins already this year. One a graded stake.

I do think there is something wrong with running the horse in a completely impossible spot. He's not a 4YO unneutered horse who can greatly increase his value with a win, or even placing, he is a 6YO gelding. The simple fact is that whoever decided to run him there did the wrong thing by the horse. Simple as that.

Thus, I would say I strongly disagree with your " nothing wrong with that " comment.

[letswastemoney]

How does anyone really know that Funny Cide is going in the Empire Classic? Has it been stated anywhere by Tagg that it's their goal after the Brooklyn?? I'm not saying he won't go in the race but unless someone has a link of a direct quote.....