Football Hall of Fame- Yes or No

[philcski]

Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"

QB's
Brett Favre
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Kurt Warner
Donovan McNabb
Ben Rothlisberger
Carson Palmer

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson
Adrian Peterson

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss
Hines Ward
Steve Smith (CAR of course)
Wes Welker
Larry Fitzgerald
Anquan Boldin
Chad "Ochocinco"
Reggie Wayne
Terrell Owens
Andre Johnson
Donald Driver
Torry Holt
TJ Houshmanzadeh
Tony Gonzalez
Antonio Gates

[The Indomitable DrugS]

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Originally Posted by philcski

QB's
Brett Favre 1st ballot
Tom Brady 1st ballot
Peyton Manning 1st ballot
Drew Brees needs to do a lot more
Kurt Warner It might take a while
Donovan McNabb No way
Ben Rothlisberger needs to do a lot more
Carson Palmer

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson yes
Adrian Peterson probably

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss 1st ballot
Hines Ward probably
Steve Smith (CAR of course) doubt it
Wes Welker
Larry Fitzgerald needs to do more
Anquan Boldin no
Chad "Ochocinco" probably not
Reggie Wayne needs to do more
Terrell Owens It might take a few tries
Andre Johnson no
Donald Driver no
Torry Holt no
TJ Houshmanzadeh
Tony Gonzalez probably
Antonio Gates needs to do a lot more

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by philcski

Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"

QB's
Brett Favre yes
Tom Brady yes
Peyton Manning yes
Drew Brees no
Kurt Warner yes
Donovan McNabb yes
Ben Rothlisberger no
Carson Palmer no

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson no
Adrian Peterson no

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss yes
Hines Ward no
Steve Smith (CAR of course) yes
Wes Welker no
Larry Fitzgerald no
Anquan Boldin no
Chad "Ochocinco" no
Reggie Wayne no
Terrell Owens no
Andre Johnson no
Donald Driver no
Torry Holt yes
TJ Houshmanzadeh no
Tony Gonzalez yes
Antonio Gates yes

without anything but feel...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I somewhat agree with Rush Limbaugh on McNabb.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"

QB's
Brett Favre yes
Tom Brady yes
Peyton Manning yes
Drew Brees
Kurt Warner
Donovan McNabb
Ben Rothlisberger
Carson Palmer

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson
Adrian Peterson

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss yes
Hines Ward
Steve Smith (CAR of course)
Wes Welker
Larry Fitzgerald
Anquan Boldin
Chad "Ochocinco"
Reggie Wayne
Terrell Owens
Andre Johnson
Donald Driver
Torry Holt
TJ Houshmanzadeh
Tony Gonzalez
Antonio Gates

those are the only ones i feel with absolute certainty will get in. some of the others may, but the more you include, the less meaning 'hall of fame' would have.

Rothlisberger is a lock with one more super bowl, one more bike accident, and three more rapes.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

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donald driver might be a first ballot HOF, imo

-bt-

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by philcski

Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"

QB's
Brett Favre yes
Tom Brady of course
Peyton Manning of course
Drew Brees yes
Kurt Warner maybe..
Donovan McNabb no
Ben Rothlisberger got enough rings to get in
Carson Palmer no

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson maybe.. i guess probably
Adrian Peterson oh yes

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss yes
Hines Ward i guess
Steve Smith (CAR of course) no
Wes Welker no
Larry Fitzgerald yes
Anquan Boldin no
Chad "Ochocinco" no
Reggie Wayne i dunno.. i say no
Terrell Owens no, though i guess his numbers say yes
Andre Johnson yes if he continues his freakiness
Donald Driver no
Torry Holt probably
TJ Houshmanzadeh no
Tony Gonzalez yes
Antonio Gates no

here's my opinion.

Also hoping Action Jackson keeps it up so he can be on this list.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"

QB's
Brett Favre Yes
Tom Brady Yes
Peyton Manning Yes
Drew Brees no but if he keeps his current pace for a few more years and the Saints can have some playoff success then yes
Kurt Warnerno but if he plays full seasons and makes the playoffs for a couple years he may be a yes
Donovan McNabbassuming he lays at same level for 3 -4 years yes
Ben Rothlisbergerno still 5 good years away
Carson Palmerno hasnt done enough but at current production rate in 5 years is in

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson yes
Adrian Petersonobviously hasnt played enough but at current production levels for 4 or 5 more years he is an easy yes
Jamal Lewis after first 3 years was heading there but injuries hurt. Is 21st all time in rushing and 14th in rush yards per game but no for me


WR's/TE's
Randy Mossyes
Hines Wardnot yet but getting close
Steve Smith (CAR of course)no
Wes Welkerno
Larry Fitzgeraldnot yet but in 3-4 years will be close
Anquan Boldinno still aways away
Chad "Ochocinco"no and is already 31
Reggie Waynesame as above and is 32
Terrell Owensyes
Andre Johnson4/5 more years
Donald Driverno and is old
Torry Holtyes
TJ Houshmanzadehno
Tony Gonzalezunanimous pick
Antonio Gatesneeds a couple more years

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I somewhat agree with Rush Limbaugh on McNabb.

McNabb is tough, and really depends on what criteria one uses. For people that expect their QBs to win championships....he obviously comes up short. For those that like stats, he looks pretty good. Compare - for example - his TD/INT to HOFer Troy Aikman.

McNabb - 203 TDs - 91 INTs
Aikman - 165 TDs - 141 INTS

McNabb blows him away.

[NTamm1215]

I'm surprised so many of you think Adrian Peterson is not going to be a lock for Hall of Fame. Obviously, he's not there right now but I thought part of the thread was anticipating whether some of these players would get there down the road.

Peterson has rushed for 3,885 yards through his first 38 games. That's about 800 more than Emmitt Smith rushed for through his first 38 games. He's also scored two more rushing touchdowns than Smith did during that stretch.

I think the guy is a certainty for the HOF when his career is done, provided he stays at this pace.

NT

[SniperSB23]

QB's
Brett Favre - YES
Tom Brady - YES
Peyton Manning - YES
Drew Brees - with 3 more good years
Kurt Warner - difficult call but I say yes
Donovan McNabb - YES
Ben Rothlisberger - has a ways to go but another Super Bowl would make him tough to deny
Carson Palmer - not even close yet

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson - YES
Adrian Peterson - three more great years or five more good ones and he's in

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss - YES
Hines Ward - NO
Steve Smith (CAR of course) - NO
Wes Welker - NO
Larry Fitzgerald - needs 3 more good years
Anquan Boldin - NO
Chad "Ochocinco" - short on TDs, may still need several more good seasons
Reggie Wayne - hasn't done enough and at 31 may never
Terrell Owens - YES
Andre Johnson - still a long way to go
Donald Driver - NO
Torry Holt - light on TDs but probably enough yards
TJ Houshmanzadeh - NO
Tony Gonzalez - YES
Antonio Gates - close already, probably 1500 more yards and 7 more TDs and he's a lock

[SniperSB23]

I don't see how people can have Terrell Owens as a NO. The guy has 6 less TDs than Ochocinco, Wayne, and Adrian Peterson combined.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I don't see how people can have Terrell Owens as a NO. The guy has 6 less TDs than Ochocinco, Wayne, and Adrian Peterson combined.

I only put no cause I hate him as much as I hate anybody. he will get in unless the voters vote based on his attitude.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by philcski

Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"

QB's
Brett Favre yes
Tom Brady yes
Peyton Manning yes
Drew Brees few more years at currant pace.
Kurt Warner no
Donovan McNabb no
Ben Rothlisberger-a few more years at current pace. not pretty just Wins.
Carson Palmer no

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson no
Adrian Peterson- no, won't stay healthy long enough with his style.

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss no
Hines Ward-yes. already passed Swann and Stalworth in Steelers records
Steve Smith (CAR of course) no
Wes Welker no
Larry Fitzgerald- not played long enough yet
Anquan Boldin no
Chad "Ochocinco" NO
Reggie Wayne no
Terrell Owens no
Andre Johnson no
Donald Driver no
Torry Holt no
TJ Houshmanzadeh no
Tony Gonzalez no
Antonio Gates no

just my 2 cents.

[Antitrust32]

Randy Moss and Tony Gonzalez are sure things!

[King Glorious]

QB's
Brett Favre-easy yes
Tom Brady-easy yes
Peyton Manning-easy yes
Drew Brees-possibly
Kurt Warner-easy yes
Donovan McNabb-no
Ben Rothlisberger-yes without playing another down. Won as many titles as Manning and Favre combined
Carson Palmer-no

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson-easy yes
Adrian Peterson-assuming reasonable production for three more seasons, yes

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss
Hines Ward-easy yes
Steve Smith (CAR of course)-no
Wes Welker-not in this lifetime
Larry Fitzgerald-very good chance with a few more seasons of the same
Anquan Boldin-no
Chad "Ochocinco"-no
Reggie Wayne-no
Terrell Owens
Andre Johnson-yes
Donald Driver-no
Torry Holt-close but no
TJ Houshmanzadeh-no
Tony Gonzalez-yes
Antonio Gates-yes with a few more good seasons

[philcski]

Originally Posted by philcski

Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"

QB's
Brett Favre 1st ballot
Tom Brady 1st ballot
Peyton Manning 1st ballot
Drew Brees if he continues to play at his current level for a few more years
Kurt Warner yes after a few ballots
Donovan McNabb yes after a few ballots
Ben Rothlisberger yes after a few ballots
Carson Palmer not yet

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson yes
Adrian Peterson assuming he stays healthy yes

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss 1st ballot
Hines Ward 2nd or 3rd ballot
Steve Smith (CAR of course) no
Wes Welkerno
Larry Fitzgerald yes, has 51 td's in 5 1/2 seasons, if he plays 10 years he gets in
Anquan Boldin not yet
Chad "Ochocinco" no
Reggie Wayne no
Terrell Owens 1st ballot if he wasn't such an idiot, 2nd ballot
Andre Johnson no
Donald Driver no
Torry Holt close but no cigar
TJ Houshmanzadeh no
Tony Gonzalez 1st ballot
Antonio Gates yes- 53 td's in 6 1/2 seasons is a monster number for a TE

my guesses... i find it interesting how many potential HOF QB's there are and so few quality RB's. Perhaps part of it is the running back platoon everyone is using these days.

[ateamstupid]

QB's
Brett Favre unfortunately
Tom Brady yes
Peyton Manning yes
Drew Brees yes
Kurt Warner yes
Donovan McNabb yes
Ben Rothlisberger yes
Carson Palmer no

RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit
LaDanian Tomlinson yes
Adrian Peterson yes

WR's/TE's
Randy Moss yes
Hines Ward yes
Steve Smith (CAR of course) no
Wes Welker no
Larry Fitzgerald yes
Anquan Boldin no
Chad "Ochocinco" no
Reggie Wayne no
Terrell Owens no
Andre Johnson yes
Donald Driver no
Torry Holt no
TJ Houshmanzadeh no
Tony Gonzalez yes
Antonio Gates yes

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

just my 2 cents.

So Hines Ward is the only running back, wideout, or tight end currently playing who will make the hall of fame?

Wow, just wow.

I take it you must put a great emphasis on blocking and playing dirty.

How many current offensive lineman do you have going to the hall of fame? 60?