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Old 05-12-2010, 10:35 PM
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Steve and the rest of the D.T. family, I recently join this forum because I love talking about horseracing. But I wanted to add a comment that I wanted to make yesterday during the show (May 11th) about drawing new fans.

I understand the people like my late grandfather was the person who got me into enjoying horseracing. Born in Baltimore, I had the pleasure of going to Old Hilltop, Bowie, Laurel and for night racing to the bull ring at Charlestown. Yes it was the crowds of old men smoking and cussing on the rail even in my early teens before I was allowed to wager, I loved watching the horses and even handicapping races for my grandfather. I had the pleasure to see all three triple crown winners in the 70's win the Preakness live in person. And yes I was one of them fools running up against the inner rail from the infield to cheer as Secretariat pulled away from Sham.

But the real point I want to make; us current horseplayers are taken for granted, if the industry wants new fans they need to clean up the mess with medication and for the most part shorten race meets. You take 60 % of the tracks who runs meets for 6 months or more (Calder, Thistledowns, Woodbine and others) it's mainly the same horses beating up on each other. And with simulcasting, more focus is put on multiple tracks instead of the industry combining some of the lesser tracks to develop things like a super condense meeting. Going to the track years ago was an event. Today when you see some of the tracks on your simulcast feed you can barely hear anyone at the track and when they show the crowd you may see a handful of people watching races unless it's a big event.

I understand the investors who buys the horse is key and maybe the tax breaks that were taken away in the 80's should be reinstated. And if you want the younger crowds fine! But let's remember the easiest way to attract people is; give them an opportunity to have fun but in the words of one of most favorite movie of all time " let it ride"....there's no racing without betting!

People don't want a race card filled with chalk, or given waterdown beer for $1 and a hotdog that taste like it's been in water for 10 days straight. Gulfstream did it right, they combined the race track in the daytime with dinner and clubs at night time. Even in the off season they are still able to get a crowd. Yes they are adding high in shops like most gambling places.

I hate to say it, but maybe NBC was on the right target. For most men like myself we would go to the live meet if I knew plenty of ladies was there having a good time and looking great....shhhh don't tell my wife though lol
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:34 PM
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My uncle was the one who got me into racing and his uncle was the one that got him into racing. I've tried to get my friends and family into it but no luck. They prefer other forms of gambling or not.

I'm not sure about the complaint about track meets. Florida is the only state that has 2 thoroughbred tracks running at the same time. I agree there are too many races that reduce field size.

The best thing to ever happen to racing is the ADWs. Betting online from the comfort of my own home is great.

The biggest downside to horse playing is the tax laws. Completely against horse players. Slot players don't have to sign until they hit $1,200.

I've already paid taxes on this money and they take money out of the pools.
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I'm not sure about the complaint about track meets. Florida is the only state that has 2 thoroughbred tracks running at the same time. I agree there are too many races that reduce field size.
what about california, pennsylvania, texas, new york
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Old 05-14-2010, 05:05 AM
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what about california, pennsylvania, texas, new york
And Louisiana.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:35 PM
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what about california, pennsylvania, texas, new york

I'm not counting the horses that run at night for $5,000 and less
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:39 PM
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I'm not counting the horses that run at night for $5,000 and less
okay, all of the states mentioned still have 2 tracks running at the same time.
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:42 AM
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What about us?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU

Great post.
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