World Cup 2010

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Defensive vaginas.

Little of both. Jozy has to find a way to keep that ball inside the post. It wasn't easy, but either was the 2nd goal by Ghana. The better-skilled team moved on. Other than the penalty kick, it was a poor offensive effort by the Americans. Coach is right, though. The defenders are too slow. There are 300 million people in the country, and there's no reason to have athletes that slow on D. Good luck to Ghana. They are only a 15% Muslim Country. Frees up a lot of time when ya don't half to spend half your time trying to please MO......The U.S. team still took down the 99% Muslim Entry in a style that is much appreciated.

[mark2061mn]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Little of both. Jozy has to find a way to keep that ball inside the post. It wasn't easy, but either was the 2nd goal by Ghana. The better-skilled team moved on. Other than the penalty kick, it was a poor offensive effort by the Americans. Coach is right, though. The defenders are too slow. There are 300 million people in the country, and there's no reason to have athletes that slow on D. Good luck to Ghana. They are only a 15% Muslim Country. Frees up a lot of time when ya don't half to spend half your time trying to please MO......The U.S. team still took down the 99% Muslim scumbag team in a style that is much appreciated.

They are all playing football, basketball or baseball!! LOL

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I hope Ghana has enough people to finish the game.

I hate to say it but the reason the majority of Americans hate soccer is because of the diving and fake injuries.

Don't fall behind and the fake injuries won't occur. Ghana was stalling because the referee was allowing it. The US put themselves in that position.

All in all, a proper finish for the US. Getting out of their group was a realistic goal, they achieved that. A quaterfinal exit was probably the best they could expect. They fell one game short of that, but were not disgraced.

Both games should be very interesting tomorrow. I don't think England or Germany has what it takes to win this, but they are evenly matched. Argentina needs to keep their momentum they built up in the group stage against a scrappy Mexico.

[Cannon Shell]

Dont you think the WC would be a whole lot better if it was a single elimination tourney with the refs having the replay option to check offsides, mysterious penalties and faking?
Or am I just being the ugly American?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I hope Ghana has enough people to finish the game.

I hate to say it but the reason the majority of Americans hate soccer is because of the diving and fake injuries.

It's because we lose to Ghana etc. We aren't world class at it, so why would we care much about it? Americans aren't wired to care about stuff we aren't good at. Every 4 years, we care about not getting beat too early in the World Cup. Then, they choke and/or aren't good enough to keep winning. The sport can't really get a good hold. It's still mainly for tree hugger's kids, and Snow White professional residential areas. Still, you'd think they would get more of the other sport's leftovers.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dont you think the WC would be a whole lot better if it was a single elimination tourney with the refs having the replay option to check offsides, mysterious penalties and faking?
Or am I just being the ugly American?

Very ugly. The only reason for replay to be instituted would be to check for balls going across the goal line.

I thought that todays ref actually did a pretty good job. The thing i don't understand is with the field being as large as it is, why not use a 2 referee system? That coupled with the linesman should cut down and catch many of the fouls. Hell, a hockey rink is what 1/4 of the size of a soccer field? And they use 2 refs.

As far as the game went they just can't afford to always play from behind. It's unbelieveable how their defense always seems to have a lapse every game. But, the difference today seemed to be the goaltenders. Although Howard is one of the best in the world, he was outplayed today. The other guy made the key saves. They should be disappointed, they lost to an inferior team today that seemd to have about 4 shots on net the whole game and 2 of them found the back of it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Very ugly. The only reason for replay to be instituted would be to check for balls going across the goal line.

I thought that todays ref actually did a pretty good job. The thing i don't understand is with the field being as large as it is, why not use a 2 referee system? That coupled with the linesman should cut down and catch many of the fouls. Hell, a hockey rink is what 1/4 of the size of a soccer field? And they use 2 refs.

As far as the game went they just can't afford to always play from behind. It's unbelieveable how their defense always seems to have a lapse every game. But, the difference today seemed to be the goaltenders. Although Howard is one of the best in the world, he was outplayed today. The other guy made the key saves. They should be disappointed, they lost to an inferior team today that seemd to have about 4 shots on net the whole game and 2 of them found the back of it.

2 refs=too much bribe money needed

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Very ugly. The only reason for replay to be instituted would be to check for balls going across the goal line.

I thought that todays ref actually did a pretty good job. The thing i don't understand is with the field being as large as it is, why not use a 2 referee system? That coupled with the linesman should cut down and catch many of the fouls. Hell, a hockey rink is what 1/4 of the size of a soccer field? And they use 2 refs.

As far as the game went they just can't afford to always play from behind. It's unbelieveable how their defense always seems to have a lapse every game. But, the difference today seemed to be the goaltenders. Although Howard is one of the best in the world, he was outplayed today. The other guy made the key saves. They should be disappointed, they lost to an inferior team today that seemd to have about 4 shots on net the whole game and 2 of them found the back of it.

I would disagree with you about Ghana being an inferior team. Ghana is very good, people just don't know much about them because they are so young and most of their top talent save for Essien, Gyan, Muntari, Appiah, and Kingson are all from their 2009 U20 World Cup Winning team. Ghana didn't really need to push forward once Boateng put the early marker on the board especially with Rajovic's tactical tendencies. If Ghana had not put the early goal on the board, you likely would have seen a different plan of attack. I mean, Ghana was missing their leader and best player Michael Essien for the entire Cup, as well as bringing established Top Level veterans like Sulley Muntari and Stephen Appiah off the bench this year, for younger players. Ghana will be a thorn in many team's sides for the next couple of years and it wouldn't suprise me in the least if they are one of the 2014 World Cup favorites with the talent on that squad.

Personally, regarding the game, I thought they lost to a better team today. It was pretty simple, Ghana was better with the ball, better tactically, better in the back, disciplined, and physical with pace. The US Soccer team is good, but Ghana outplayed them today and absolutely deserved to move on. Now, if Edu is in from the start, yeah, decent chance they don't give up the first one, but then, chances are, they don't play the same style coming out of the halftime break if it's 0-0 compared to 1-0, especially against a good defensive side in Ghana with Kingson, who has been outstanding at the World Cup.

The US will always be competitive with most of the world, but you will always have your top teams like Brazil, Argentina, etc., that the US will struggle to beat on a consistent basis. It's not like this was any lock that the US would win today.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

As far as the game went they just can't afford to always play from behind. It's unbelieveable how their defense always seems to have a lapse every game. But, the difference today seemed to be the goaltenders. Although Howard is one of the best in the world, he was outplayed today. The other guy made the key saves. They should be disappointed, they lost to an inferior team today that seemd to have about 4 shots on net the whole game and 2 of them found the back of it.

I think Howard being one of the best in the world is a figment of the US media's imagination. They are the only one's repeating this ad nauseum. He's nowhere near top five and would struggle make the top ten.

Howard is a very average keeper on a very average team.

[golfer]

Luckily for all of us, within in a week, we can all go back to not giving a **** about soccer. For some of us, it won't take that long, but I'm generalizing.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

I would disagree with you about Ghana being an inferior team. Ghana is very good, people just don't know much about them because they are so young and most of their top talent save for Essien, Gyan, Muntari, Appiah, and Kingson are all from their 2009 U20 World Cup Winning team. Ghana didn't really need to push forward once Boateng put the early marker on the board especially with Rajovic's tactical tendencies. If Ghana had not put the early goal on the board, you likely would have seen a different plan of attack. I mean, Ghana was missing their leader and best player Michael Essien for the entire Cup, as well as bringing established Top Level veterans like Sulley Muntari and Stephen Appiah off the bench this year, for younger players. Ghana will be a thorn in many team's sides for the next couple of years and it wouldn't suprise me in the least if they are one of the 2014 World Cup favorites with the talent on that squad.

Personally, regarding the game, I thought they lost to a better team today. It was pretty simple, Ghana was better with the ball, better tactically, better in the back, disciplined, and physical with pace. The US Soccer team is good, but Ghana outplayed them today and absolutely deserved to move on. Now, if Edu is in from the start, yeah, decent chance they don't give up the first one, but then, chances are, they don't play the same style coming out of the halftime break if it's 0-0 compared to 1-0, especially against a good defensive side in Ghana with Kingson, who has been outstanding at the World Cup.

The US will always be competitive with most of the world, but you will always have your top teams like Brazil, Argentina, etc., that the US will struggle to beat on a consistent basis. It's not like this was any lock that the US would win today.

I understand that Ghana is far from chopped liver, but I really do think that the US is the better team. I just find it amazing how they constantly come out on their heels each and every game and end up having to play from behind. Even with Ghana playing back a bit with the lead, the US still had a boatload of opportunities that they just couldn't capitialize on. That's the difference between being a good team and being an elite team. You would think Argentina or Brazil would have finished on a few of those chances. I think Bigs said it and he was right. That even if they would have won today, the next game would have been probably the end of the road. It was a good showing, but they aren't in the class of some of the teams that they would being looking at in the coming rounds.

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I think Howard being one of the best in the world is a figment of the US media's imagination. They are the only one's repeating this ad nauseum. He's nowhere near top five and would struggle make the top ten.

Howard is a very average keeper on a very average team.

That's a fair point and I'm not saying it's wrong. Maybe I bought into the hype and it's just my perception that he's a top goaltender. But deep down I do believe that he's in the top 5, then again I'm not sure I could name another 4 to fill out the list.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I think Howard being one of the best in the world is a figment of the US media's imagination. They are the only one's repeating this ad nauseum. He's nowhere near top five and would struggle make the top ten.

Howard is a very average keeper on a very average team.

Apparently you don't pay much attention to the EPL media then, or other World Soccer outlets...

Heck, even Hahnemann is very highly thought of on the world scene and he didn't sniff a minute in the World Cup.

I agree he is not top 5, but he has a legit shot at cracking the top 10, easily in the top 15.

He may not be Neville Southall, but I don't think he is that far behind...

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Don't fall behind and the fake injuries won't occur. Ghana was stalling because the referee was allowing it. The US put themselves in that position.

All in all, a proper finish for the US. Getting out of their group was a realistic goal, they achieved that. A quaterfinal exit was probably the best they could expect. They fell one game short of that, but were not disgraced.

Both games should be very interesting tomorrow. I don't think England or Germany has what it takes to win this, but they are evenly matched. Argentina needs to keep their momentum they built up in the group stage against a scrappy Mexico.

I agree the proper outcome occurred but the ref allowed the faking. This is the point I have issue with. If the player is deemed to be faking, he should have to sit out for 5 minutes or they should just play around the "injured player". I'm watching the England/Germany game and I don't see the same theatrics. I don't have an issue with soccer usually but I thought yesterday was excessive.

[ARyan]

To me, the US failure falls squarely on Bradley's shoulders.

His constant ability to not field the proper starting 11 and horrible usage of substitutes constantly has the US behind the eight-ball. As well with his lack of ability to get his players ready for the first 15-20 mins.

When I saw his starting lineup yesterday, I knew we might be in some trouble early. The fact that Edson Buddle didn't see time when he was the hottest player coming in is ridiculous.

Bradley's affinity for Clark and Findley is absurd. Clark, in my mind was the worst midfielder on the squad. Findley's speed is amazing, but using him to start makes no sense. He is best off the bench in the second half when defenders have slowed down. His ability to be so quick at that point is a huge strength to the US squad, having him start the game neutralizes his ability some.

DeMerit yesterday was a bad choice too. I would have taken Gooch at 75% over the way DeMerit walked around yesterday.

I just feel we were out managed quite a bit in this World Cup. Bradley does some things very well, unfortunately he does many things EXTREMELY poor.

I hope come Brazil, Bradley is an afterthought as far as coaching goes.

Ze Germans.

[brockguy]

Game on now - 2-1 Germany against England!!! was that over the line!!

Ridiculous. Need replay.

[brockguy]

it was miles over - absolutely awful refereeing!!

[ARyan]

Once again the World Cup Ref's screw a game...

HORRIBLE!!!

[MaTH716]

It's an absolute mockery. In a sport where goals are at a premium, to miss one like that is a disgrace. The real disheartening part is that there is an easy solution. It's not like replay will disrupt the flow of the game, with guys flopping like they got shot every 14 seconds and laying on the ground forever. Really, how long could a video review take? Hell at least give us a goal judge with a vulva.