Questions for Zenyatta Fans. . .

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

How do you top this stuff?

Lisa's Booby Trap will win the Breeders Cup Classic - and once she's in the winners circle - she will transform from a horse into the mortal flesh of her trainers dead wife Lisa.

Ouch

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I don't think it's about her personality. I think it's preparation, surface and set up.

The trainer isn't going to have her cranked to beat that crew and with her running style and the way the race set up on that surface she wasn't going to beat them by much.

I'm actually agreeing with you but then again, this isn't the political section.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

For some reasson your taking personal shots at me, I dont really know why...
So I will say this, Im pretty sure you told me last year Z was better then Rachel. Im also pretty sure you told me Z would like 10f a lot better, we are talking about 12 months now so I might be wrong. There are how many Z threads up right now, this could not fit in somewhere else? The surface is not irrelevant??? WTF, how is the surface not important? Your such a ****ing know it all about everything and I dont think you realize how smug you come off sometimes. If anything I have no problem at all bashing the connections, but I think its clear she likes dirt more, she just moves better over it and seems to win MUCH EASIER.

It's hard not to take personal shots when you come at me with something so weak. . . First of all. . . I NEVER said Z was better. Never ever ever ever. . . Maybe I said she would have won the Woodward.

I was trying to prove a multi-tiered point, but it was stupid of me to try here.

Now listen - one more time.

Many have claimed that the reason Zenyatta only beats her VASTLY inferior opponents (I don't disagree with the inferior part) by small margins in some cases is that she is "toying" with them in some way. . . that she's just so superior that she can keep them behind her by just enough every time without ever really fully extending herself. But, if this theory holds any weight, then why did she win the Apple Blossom by so many lengths? Hmm. . .

There were a few answers that could have been acceptable and held merit, but it's clear that Zenyatta fans, like yourself, are incapable of having an intelligent, rational conversation about her. . . you all kind of sound like religious nuts to me.

Smug enough for you?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Ouch

Hello people, the trainer has said numerous times he thinks the horse is his actual wife.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Positive attention?

By that I assume you mean dopey pretty horsey people that don't bet.

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Did you even read what his post was in response to?

Yes, still classless..

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

Bzzz we dont need fans we need gamblers.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

I'm going to take a wild stab here, but marketing isn't your chosen profession, correct?

Lisa's Booby Trap will viciously attack Zenyatta in the BCC post parade for giving her man a provocative neigh in the paddock.

Then Captain Ahab will celebrate Boobies stunning win in the BCC by heading over to The Thoroughbred Lounge on Dixie and finding solace in a bottle of Evan Williams and a few rounds of motorboatin.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Hockey, the simple answer is because she's not toying with anyone.

She was all out in her last two races and clearly laying her body down and straining. The whip was out both times.

It's hard to win by big margins in synthetic races - and even harded when the pacesetters go slow and have some finish left in them.

On dirt - she blew by Taptam and Be Fair because both horses were running early - and you have to run harder throughout on dirt. They are more demanding races - and will be won by margins.

Basically - the notion that she's measuring these horses and could have won by larger margins is competely idiotic.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Lisa's Booby Trap will viciously attack Zenyatta in the BCC post parade for giving her man a provocative neigh in the paddock.

Then Captain Ahab will celebrate Boobies stunning win in the BCC by heading over to The Thoroughbred Lounge on Dixie and finding solace in a bottle of Evan Williams and a few rounds of motorboatin.

And this would draw in the WWE fans.

[tiggerv]

The surface is the answer. "Toying" has nothing to do with it.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Hockey, the simple answer is because she's not toying with anyone.

She was all out in her last two races and clearly laying her body down and straining. The whip was out both times.

It's hard to win by big margins in synthetic races - and even harded when the pacesetters go slow and have some finish left in them.

On dirt - she blew by Taptam and Be Fair because both horses were running early - and you have to run harder throughout on dirt. They are more demanding races - and will be won by margins.

Basically - the notion that she's measuring these horses and could have won by larger margins is competely idiotic.

I knew you knew the answer. . . Can I take Joe's place as your facebook BFF?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm going to take a wild stab here, but marketing isn't your chosen profession, correct?

Actually it is...

[RockHardTen1985]

I think Z is better, I like Rachel. I hope she kills the PE. That's been my stance all along, I respect and appreciate Rachel, but I think Z is better. Pretty simple, no?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I knew you knew the answer. . . Can I take Joe's place as your facebook BFF?

You guys can share doug's sock.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

the nfl isn't funded by gamblers. not much of a comparison between the biggest sport in the country and horse racing, which is absolutely funded by gamblers and doesn't have the tv saturation and marketing. racing doesn't need people seeking entertainment, it needs people willing to lay some money down on the horses.
a big crowd showed at del mar yesterday, but how was the handle?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Many have claimed that the reason Zenyatta only beats her VASTLY inferior opponents (I don't disagree with the inferior part) by small margins in some cases is that she is "toying" with them in some way. . . that she's just so superior that she can keep them behind her by just enough every time without ever really fully extending herself. But, if this theory holds any weight, then why did she win the Apple Blossom by so many lengths? Hmm. . .

I'm a supporter and I've never made the case that she 'toys' with fields. But I've "answered" your question on a number of occasions. Z has run significantly more wipeouts than an other horse I've charted. What's significant about this is that wipeouts are much more prevalent on dirt (especially off tracks) than on turf or poly. If she wipes em out so prolifically on poly, it's easy to see why both her dirt races have been pronounced wipeouts. It makes sense; really.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

You put a lot of undue wear-and-tear on my scroll-wheel.

Who cares about fly by night racing fans/pretty horsey people who don't bet and have no interest in even learning how to handicap?

Tommy Brady's so cute and the New England Patriots are 18-0 - Yay!!! I'm a football fan now!!

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the nfl isn't funded by gamblers. not much of a comparison between the biggest sport in the country and horse racing, which is absolutely funded by gamblers and doesn't have the tv saturation and marketing. racing doesn't need people seeking entertainment, it needs people willing to lay some money down on the horses.
a big crowd showed at del mar yesterday, but how was the handle?

I would be willing to wager that the handle was better than any Saturday of the meet so far. Isn't that the point? To increase handle?