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[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

Ok fair enough, then good on you. All I remember was taking it from all sides, for daring to question her record and Jess's actions of shutting her down with 4 months of racing left in the year.

He had every right to shut her down. She actually ran a taxing campaign.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's not true at all. I said it was lunacy to say RA was an all time great, or even a better filly than Rags to Riches.

She was better than Rags To Riches IMO.

[Indian Charlie]

Not in my eyes. I could never see RA beating Curlin, under any conditions other than her getting a 5 length lead going real slow.

Even then, I doubt it.

I think the reason RA looked as good as she did was the atrocious level of competition she faced.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

She was better than Rags To Riches IMO.

I think they would have had a great match-up if they battled going 1-1/16 or 1-1/8.

At a 1-1/4, I would give the advantage to R2R.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Not in my eyes. I could never see RA beating Curlin, under any conditions other than her getting a 5 length lead going real slow.

Even then, I doubt it.

I think the reason RA looked as good as she did was the atrocious level of competition she faced.

It depends on the distance I think. At 12 furlongs, which we run like 4 of those a year, yeah Rags was better. She was better at 10 also. But I'd take RA at 9 furlongs. The RA of last year that is.

You should look at some of those fields Rags beat.

[randallscott35]

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[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It depends on the distance I think. At 12 furlongs, which we run like 4 of those a year, yeah Rags was better. She was better at 10 also. But I'd take RA at 9 furlongs. The RA of last year that is.

You should look at some of those fields Rags beat.

Seconded.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by CSC

yes I will include the same Sentiment to those that are premature in their declarations of Zenyatta being the greatest before Sat's race.

Those assertions are not just premature, but also patently absurd. Zenyatta can win on Saturday by double digit lengths, and still no reasonable person would refer to her as the greatest. Anyone who thinks she is better than Secretariat is suffering from dementia.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It depends on the distance I think. At 12 furlongs, which we run like 4 of those a year, yeah Rags was better. She was better at 10 also. But I'd take RA at 9 furlongs. The RA of last year that is.

You should look at some of those fields Rags beat.

Rags 7f race was spectacular.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Rags 7f race was spectacular.

It was pretty good. There was also nothing at all behind her. Again, look at some of the fields she beat.

[Indian Charlie]

Yup. She wasn't in the deepest of crops ever, I'll give you that.

Her Ky Oaks field was far better than RA's though, you have to admit that.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yup. She wasn't in the deepest of crops ever, I'll give you that.

Her Ky Oaks field was far better than RA's though, you have to admit that.

Of course it was...that was an awful field last year.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Those assertions are not just premature, but also patently absurd. Zenyatta can win on Saturday by double digit lengths, and still no reasonable person would refer to her as the greatest. Anyone who thinks she is better than Secretariat is suffering from dementia.

Total agreement.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Of course it was...that was an awful field last year.

which is why Rachel won by 20 in a very good time!