Trivia

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I mentioned Mr. Prospector in an earlier thread today ...

Mr. Prospector was a speed-sprinter who would need to hail a cab to get 9 furlongs - let alone 1 1/4 miles.



He couldn't even get 8.5 furlongs in the Lexington on a loose and uncontested lead at Keeneland as a 2/5 favorite. His Derby Trial defeat at 3/5 odds going a mile - was a race where he pretty much stopped to a jog in the stretch.

Of the 20 horses who ran in this years Kentucky Derby - name the only one who does not have Mr. Prospector in his pedigree.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I mentioned Mr. Prospector in an earlier thread today ...



Of the 20 horses who ran in this years Kentucky Derby - name the only one who does not have Mr. Prospector in his pedigree.

So Sooo SOOO EASY.....

Awesome Act

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

So Sooo SOOO EASY.....

Awesome Act

No - he's closely inbred to Mr. Prospector.

Still, not a bad guess at least, since he was a Euro import.

I will give you a hint - this horse and Espoir City were the only two BC Classic starters this year with no Mr. Prospector in their pedigree.

[Antitrust32]

Looking at Lucky?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No - he's closely inbred to Mr. Prospector.

Still, not a bad guess at least, since he was a Euro import.

I will give you a hint - this horse and Espoir City were the only two BC Classic starters this year with no Mr. Prospector in their pedigree.

First Dude

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Looking at Lucky?

Nope. his sire Smart Strike was sired by Mr. Prospector

[RockHardTen1985]

Paddy O Prado, First Dude, Lucky I think its one of those 3.

[NTamm1215]

It's Paddy O' Prado.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

First Dude

He's out of a Smart Strike mare - and he didn't run in the Derby - went Blue Grass-Preakness if I recall.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It's Paddy O' Prado.

If you look up, you will see I already guessed him.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It's Paddy O' Prado.

Yep.

[Linny]

Not First Dude, he's o/o a Smart Strike mare.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He's out of a Smart Strike mare - and he didn't run in the Derby - went Blue Grass-Preakness if I recall.

Both excellent points.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yep.

Will you do a write up on Silverbulletday compared to Z and Rachel?

[Linny]

Paddy o'Prado has no Mr. P.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Will you do a write up on Silverbulletday compared to Z and Rachel?

No.

Silverbulletday's career is strikingly similar to Rachel Alexandra though. SBD developed a little sooner - and RA might have been just a touch more talented - they both "struggled" at age four but still ran strong numbers for older females.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No.

Silverbulletday's career is strikingly similar to Rachel Alexandra though. SBD developed a little sooner - and RA might have been just a touch more talented - they both "struggled" at age four but still ran strong numbers for older females.

If I remember correctly Silverbulletday was better than RA at 2, right?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No.

Silverbulletday's career is strikingly similar to Rachel Alexandra though. SBD developed a little sooner - and RA might have been just a touch more talented - they both "struggled" at age four but still ran strong numbers for older females.

So you dont mind doing beyers on horses from the 60's? How about you start a thread and take suggestions?

I would like to know how Bernardini and Point Given would stack up vs older greats? How about Giants Causeway's 1 dirt effort or his entire career? Rock Hard Tens career? Looking at SBD pp's I think she would have beat Z and Rachel on the norm. She fell off a bit, and I guess people can say Z never did, but she still ran fast A LOT.

[RockHardTen1985]

What about Victory Gallops Foster and Whitney? As a deep closer, better then anything Z ever ran?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What about Victory Gallops Foster and Whitney? As a deep closer, better then anything Z ever ran?

Victory Gallop would not have beaten Zenyatta's best 10f races until the late fall of his 3-year-old season.



He was basically an honest 105-to-108 type of horse through the summer of his 3yo season.

He developed into a 114-to-118 type of horse by late fall of his 3-year-old season on.

The ALW race where he only managed a 111 - that was at 8.5 at Gulfstream and the pace was slow (25 flat opening quarter)

His Dubai race was also probably slow paced (he tracked in 4th) - and he didn't have lasix for that race....he ran HORRIBLE as a 2yo without lasix.

But yeah, basically same running style as Zenyatta and he would have beat her going long as an older horse with lasix.

With Mr. Prospector and Storm Cat blood taking over - horses in general aren't quite as good going 10fs as they have been. Zenyatta does have Mr. Prospector in her pedigree .. but he's back a ways in the sire line - and Zenyatta has a ton of American stamina influences and Euro turf horses all over her pedigree. She's a lot better bred for 10fs than most horses today.