1/15-17 (AQU): Evening Attire, Lady on the Run, Jimmy Winkfield

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Doesn't make sense based on the rest of the day. They are apparently trying to re-time it.

CJ posted 104 Beyer..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

CJ posted 104 Beyer..

Yup.. And apparently the timer is correct, so they appear to have cut the race out as a projection which is the only thing you can do when you get these kinds of clockings.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Yup.. And apparently the timer is correct, so they appear to have cut the race out as a projection which is the only thing you can do when you get these kinds of clockings.

I dont get the process no matter how hard CJ tries to drill it thru my skull. The thought that a stakes horse that is well bred and on the improve is only premitted to improve X amount because the PP's say so is very arrogant. not that I doubt the skill or expertise of people like CJ and Beyer because I don't.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I dont get the process no matter how hard CJ tries to drill it thru my skull. The thought that a stakes horse that is well bred and on the improve is only premitted to improve X amount because the PP's say so is very arrogant. not that I doubt the skill or expertise of people like CJ and Beyer because I don't.

It's not that the winner didn't improve X amount... But when you simply computer or formula generate without any human logic involved, you then get also rans behind said winner improving proportionately and running outlandish numbers. Better to deduce that the track sped up to produce the anomoly time.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

It's not that the winner didn't improve X amount... But when you simply computer or formula generate without any human logic involved, you then get also rans behind said winner improving proportionately and running outlandish numbers. Better to deduce that the track sped up to produce the anomoly time.

Yep that's the party line...tow away

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Yep that's the party line...tow away

Freddy..

What don't you understand about figure-making in this arena? Is it preferable to call the effort a 120 and then revise it when it proves to be wrong after the field runs back? The track changed. It happens a lot.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Freddy..

What don't you understand about figure-making in this arena? Is it preferable to call the effort a 120 and then revise it when it proves to be wrong after the field runs back? The track changed. It happens a lot.

Yup in the 18 minutes between the 7th and 8th the track changed and then reverted back 19 minutes later for the 9th. Who is the new NYRA super Chris Angel? I thought the previous guy everyone was thrilled with?

I realize tracks change who doesn't?

They will by changing the fig soon enough

[NTamm1215]

I'm far more inclined to believe that the timer malfunctioned then that Fort Hughes somehow ran on a track that was seconds faster than the one Stormandaprayer ran on 25 minutes before.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm far more inclined to believe that the timer malfunctioned then that Fort Hughes somehow ran on a track that was seconds faster than the one Stormandaprayer ran on 25 minutes before.

Agree completely.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm far more inclined to believe that the timer malfunctioned then that Fort Hughes somehow ran on a track that was seconds faster than the one Stormandaprayer ran on 25 minutes before.

CJ hand timed it and feels the time is correct! I also would hope NYRA would have called attention to a timing error if indeed one had happened. They are the only ones bettors can count on to do the right thing by players.