3yo's: Keeneland opener features 10 going 7f..

[Betsy]

Nice maiden race at GP on Saturday:


California, an Indy colt out of Madcap Escapade is entered (Pletcher)

Occelli, by Bernardini out of Grannie's Feather (I know she's the dam of a good runner, but I'm blanking out) is trained by McLaughlin and has exceptional works

Cal Nation, by Distorted Humor out of She's a Winner, by Indy - also trained by Pletcher

Plus some other well bred kids

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by tjfla

For Derby strategy speaking

ST has $110,000 right now,just say he wins the Gotham then he will have about $240,000,if Repole was smart he would run him in the Wood collect the 2nd place check and have 2 horses in the Derby.

THis is why I asked I wonder what they will do with him?

I think it's a bit premature to map out a derby path for a horse who struggled when going 2 turns in the bc juvy

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

I think it's a bit premature to map out a derby path for a horse who struggled when going 2 turns in the bc juvy

Who didn't think he would struggle going 2 turns off of a 2 month layoff and a 7 furlong sprint? Not one of Todd's better ideas.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Who didn't think he would struggle going 2 turns off of a 2 month layoff and a 7 furlong sprint? Not one of Todd's better ideas.

Agree with you on this. I thought there was nothing wrong with his Toga G1 run. Then he does not show up till the BC. Mo is clearly the real deal, why was this horse not sent to the Delta Jackpot race or something? Did they really think he could beat Mo? The spot did not make much sense to me.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Nice maiden race at GP on Saturday:


California, an Indy colt out of Madcap Escapade is entered (Pletcher)

Occelli, by Bernardini out of Grannie's Feather (I know she's the dam of a good runner, but I'm blanking out) is trained by McLaughlin and has exceptional works

Cal Nation, by Distorted Humor out of She's a Winner, by Indy - also trained by Pletcher

Plus some other well bred kids

Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Agree with you on this. I thought there was nothing wrong with his Toga G1 run. Then he does not show up till the BC. Mo is clearly the real deal, why was this horse not sent to the Delta Jackpot race or something? Did they really think he could beat Mo? The spot did not make much sense to me.

Boys at toscanova had the same layoff and still ran his race. I'm not trying to be anti-Stay Thirsty. But it's ridiculous to think he has the 2-yr old resume to suggest a 2-race path to the derby. If he's sound, he should have been ready for the holy bull or whirlaway. He has a lot to prove before he's a real derby contender.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Boys at toscanova had the same layoff and still ran his race. I'm not trying to be anti-Stay Thirsty. But it's ridiculous to think he has the 2-yr old resume to suggest a 2-race path to the derby. If he's sound, he should have been ready for the holy bull or whirlaway. He has a lot to prove before he's a real derby contender.

No, you don't understand, he's a half to two phenomenal routers so he's a no brainer to get better with distance.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

No, you don't understand, he's a half to two phenomenal routers so he's a no brainer to get better with distance.

Who said that?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Agree with you on this. I thought there was nothing wrong with his Toga G1 run. Then he does not show up till the BC. Mo is clearly the real deal, why was this horse not sent to the Delta Jackpot race or something? Did they really think he could beat Mo? The spot did not make much sense to me.

It wasn't that I thought he couldn't compete with those horses; Todd just didn't give him his best shot. I liked his race in the Hopeful a lot; I thought he was very game. .I get that people don't think he's that good and that's fine - we shall see

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star

Thanks!

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star

I laughed.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star

Grade 2 winner Fusaichi Rock Star will stand at Indian Ridge Farm in Rayne, Louisiana, for $500 during the 2007 season.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/bre...idge-farm.aspx

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

No, you don't understand, he's a half to two phenomenal routers so he's a no brainer to get better with distance.

One day someone will explain why anyone in their right mind thinks Stay Thirsty belongs on the TC trail.

I just don't get it.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

One day someone will explain why anyone in their right mind thinks Stay Thirsty belongs on the TC trail.

I just don't get it.

His owner does and I guess that's where it starts. After all, according to him it's incredible that the horse did anything last year because he's such a can't miss prospect going long.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

His owner does and I guess that's where it starts. After all, according to him it's incredible that the horse did anything last year because he's such a can't miss prospect going long.

I've been wrong before....but so has Mike.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

One day someone will explain why anyone in their right mind thinks Stay Thirsty belongs on the TC trail.

I just don't get it.

He has a cute name borrowed from a popular beer ad campaign, has a daddy named Bernadini and is trained by Todd Pletcher.

I think that's all the criteria that some people need.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

He has a cute name borrowed from a popular beer ad campaign, has a daddy named Bernadini and is trained by Todd Pletcher.

I think that's all the criteria that some people need.

Relatively speaking, that's actually a better case than I've heard for many horses.

[Kasept]

SATURDAY (2/5) 3rd Race (01:49 PM) ALLOWANCE

1 1/8 Mile Dirt. Purse $51,500. FOR THREE YEAR OLDS WHICH HAVE NEVER WON A RACE OTHER THAN MAIDEN, CLAIMING OR STARTER OR WHICH HAVE NEVER WON TWO RACES.

1 Casper's Touch 3 C L 118 Leparoux Julien R. McPeek Kenneth G.
2 El Grayling 3 C L 118 Lopez Paco Maker Michael J.
3 Shadow Warrior 3 C L 118 Castellano Javier Arnold, II George R.
4 Strike Oil 3 C L 118 Maragh Rajiv Casse Mark E.
5 Fort Larned 3 C L 122 Bridgmohan Jermaine V. Wilkes Ian R.
6 Shackleford 3 C L 118 Castanon Jesus Lopez Romans Dale L.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

One day someone will explain why anyone in their right mind thinks Stay Thirsty belongs on the TC trail.

I just don't get it.

I remember you saying on Hopeful day that he ran well.......you never gave an indication that you thought this horse was basically a bum. What made you change your mind? It's also kind of insulting to suggest that those who like him are out of our minds.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I remember you saying on Hopeful day that he ran well.......you never gave an indication that you thought this horse was basically a bum. What made you change your mind? It's also kind of insulting to suggest that those who like him are out of our minds.

I didn't say he was a bum....not now, not ever. He did run OK in the Hopeful, and better than I expected, but what about the rest of his year makes anyone think he is some kind of TC horse? He didn't run again until the BC Juvie, where he did an invisible man impersonation, and now he is returning for his 3YO debut four months later in the Gotham. Does this sound like a horse you should have confidence in?

To me he sounds like a horse of some ability, that for some reason rarely shows up on the racetrack, and has given zero indication that he will relish a distance. You need to do better than " I like his sire therefore I like him " to get me to fall into line.