4/1-3 (CD): Kentucky Derby Future Wager-Pool 3

[Kasept]

KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER

Pool 3, April 1-3

1 Animal Kingdom* 30-1
2 Anthony’s Cross 50-1
3 Astrology 50-1
4 Brethren 50-1
5 Comma to the Top (g) 50-1
6 Dialed In 10-1

7 Decisive Moment* 50-1
8 Elite Alex 30-1
9 Jaycito 20-1
10 Mr. Commons* 50-1
11 Mucho Macho Man 30-1
12 Nehro* 30-1

13 Pants On Fire* 20-1
14 Premier Pegasus* 8-1
15 Santiva 30-1
16 Silver Medallion 30-1
17 Soldat 10-1

18 Stay Thirsty 20-1
19 The Factor 6-1
20 To Honor and Serve 15-1
21 Twice the Appeal* 50-1
22 Uncle Mo 3-1
23 Watch Me Go* 50-1
24 Mutuel Field (All Other 3 YOs) 10-1

[justindew]

Ya know, I hate to join in the never-ending Churchill bashing that goes on around here. But how friggen hard is it to get certain things right?

This pool will close, at best, minutes after the Florida Derby is run. It may even close before. Good God. Extend the bet until 7:00pm.

And the issue of why they can't seem to figure out a way to offer more than 23 interestes has been beaten to death here, but I think we should beat it a little more. This wager has been offered since at least 1999 I think. So this is like the 13th time it's been offered. Figuring out how to offer more than 23 horses cannot possibly be that difficult.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by justindew

Ya know, I hate to join in the never-ending Churchill bashing that goes on around here. But how friggen hard is it to get certain things right?

This pool will close, at best, minutes after the Florida Derby is run. It may even close before. Good God. Extend the bet until 7:00pm.

And the issue of why they can't seem to figure out a way to offer more than 23 interestes has been beaten to death here, but I think we should beat it a little more. This wager has been offered since at least 1999 I think. So this is like the 13th time it's been offered. Figuring out how to offer more than 23 horses cannot possibly be that difficult.

Stop making sense.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER

Pool 3, April 1-3

1 Animal Kingdom* 30-1
2 Anthony’s Cross 50-1
3 Astrology 50-1
4 Brethren 50-1
5 Comma to the Top (g) 50-1
6 Dialed In 10-1

7 Decisive Moment* 50-1
8 Elite Alex 30-1
9 Jaycito 20-1
10 Mr. Commons* 50-1
11 Mucho Macho Man 30-1
12 Nehro* 30-1

13 Pants On Fire* 20-1
14 Premier Pegasus* 8-1
15 Santiva 30-1
16 Silver Medallion 30-1
17 Soldat 10-1

18 Stay Thirsty 20-1
19 The Factor 6-1
20 To Honor and Serve 15-1
21 Twice the Appeal* 50-1
22 Uncle Mo 3-1
23 Watch Me Go* 50-1
24 Mutuel Field (All Other 3 YOs) 10-1

I'd find it hard to believe that the Florida Derby would be run that late in the day. With Gulfstream, I'm sure it's about 4:30-5:00PM Eastern time. The pool us usually open until 6PM eastern time, right?

If they did run it late, I'd guess it would be the first derby pool where none of the 23 betting interests will have run that specific weekend. And I assume that would affect the handle negatively, too...

[somerfrost]

I never bet Future Wagers...I have enough trouble picking winners once I actually know whether a horse in actually gonna be in the starting gate, let alone have access to updated past performances, post positions, weather, track conditions etc. Seems completely illogical to me although getting 10-1 on the field might be worthwhile.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by justindew

Ya know, I hate to join in the never-ending Churchill bashing that goes on around here. But how friggen hard is it to get certain things right?

This pool will close, at best, minutes after the Florida Derby is run. It may even close before. Good God. Extend the bet until 7:00pm.

And the issue of why they can't seem to figure out a way to offer more than 23 interestes has been beaten to death here, but I think we should beat it a little more. This wager has been offered since at least 1999 I think. So this is like the 13th time it's been offered. Figuring out how to offer more than 23 horses cannot possibly be that difficult.

like the other guy said...."stop making sense". plus, why not close at 7:00PM NEXT sunday with ALL the probable starters in place(on the betting list).....then maybe i would bet a buck or two.........when they say "future"...they mean throw your money on the ground. the last pool should be better than this crap.

[Alan07]

Comma To The Top Out Of Final Pool
Comma to the Top has been removed from the roster of wagering interests for this week’s third and final pool of Churchill Downs’ Kentucky Derby Future Wager after trainer Peter Miller said that the horse will not be entered in the Kentucky Derby.

[Kasept]

LIVE ODDS

1 Animal Kingdom H. Motion 30 28
2 Anthony's Cross Eoin Harty 50 41
3 Astrology Steven Asmussen 50 40
4 Brethren Todd Pletcher 50 30
5 Comma to the Top Peter Miller SCR
6 Dialed In Nicholas Zito 10 10

7 Decisive Moment Juan Arias 50 92
8 Elite Alex Timothy Ritchey 30 29
9 Jaycito Bob Baffert 20 21
10 Mr. Commons John Shirreffs 50 99
11 Mucho Macho Man Katherine Ritvo 30 26
12 Nehro Steven Asmussen 30 39

13 Pants On Fire Kelly Breen 20 38
14 Premier Pegasus Myung Cho 8 9
15 Santiva Eddie Kenneally 30 35
16 Silver Medallion Steven Asmussen 30 55
17 Soldat Kiaran McLaughlin 10 14
18 Stay Thirsty Todd Pletcher 20 31

19 The Factor Bob Baffert 6 9
20 To Honor and Serve William Mott 15 15
21 Twice the Appeal Jeff Bonde 50 63
22 Uncle Mo Todd Pletcher 3 5/2
23 Watch Me Go Kathleen O'Connell 50 65
24 All Other Three Ye unknown trainer 10 7

[justindew]

I put a lousy $20 on Mr. Commons. Nothing else inspired. Was hoping against hope for 15-1 on PrePeg.

[Sightseek]

How is Mr. Commons even a choice?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

How is Mr. Commons even a choice?

He won routing at Santa Anita and is supposed to run in the Santa Anita Derby. That's about all it takes this year.

[Hoist Her Flag]

Agreed, One more 15-20/1 shot will win the SA Derby, Bluegrass or Arkansas Derby and mix it up. My bet is Arkansas Derby. 11 horses pointing for that race.

[Kasept]

2011 KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER

Final Odds -- Pool 3

1. Animal Kingdom* 31-1
2. Anthony's Cross 43-1
3. Astrology 41-1
4. Brethren 36-1
5. Comma to the Top SUS
6. Dialed In 5-1

7. Decisive Moment* 99-1
8. Elite Alex 32-1
9. Jaycito 20-1
10. Mr. Commons* 96-1
11. Mucho Macho Man 27-1
12. Nehro 26-1

13. Pants on Fire* 44-1
14. Premier Pegasus* 9-1
15. Santiva 30-1
16. Silver Medallion 41-1
17. Soldat 17-1
18. Stay Thirsty 32-1

19. The Factor 10-1
20. To Honor and Serve 15-1
21. Twice the Appeal* 65-1
22. Uncle Mo 3-1
23. Watch Me Go* 73-1
24. Mutuel Field (All Other 3YOs) 8-1

*new wagering interest in Pool 3

[HaloWishingwell]

I used Jaycito hoping Baffert is right about him being a legit 1 1/4 horse at 20-1. Took a wild stab at Silver Medallion. After watching Nehro get shipped out and come close for Assmussen. I am hoping this one stayed at Santa Anita for a purpose.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I never bet Future Wagers...I have enough trouble picking winners once I actually know whether a horse in actually gonna be in the starting gate, let alone have access to updated past performances, post positions, weather, track conditions etc. Seems completely illogical to me although getting 10-1 on the field might be worthwhile.