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View Poll Results: Will Obama's "1967 borders" for Israel comment hurt him with Jewish voters?
Yes 10 71.43%
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:09 PM
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Perhaps Obama isn't worried about losing the Jewish vote. Maybe he's looking for how many votes he'll gain by not siding with Israel.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:17 PM
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Perhaps Obama isn't worried about losing the Jewish vote. Maybe he's looking for how many votes he'll gain by not siding with Israel.
There is a reason the poll has been written in this constrained way.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:26 PM
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after all, the thinking process seems to be, if israel gives a bit-maybe they'll give a bit more.
Trust me, it's not just with Israel. It's like people think Israelis don't understand Muslims. They understand them very well. It's the rest of the world that doesn't understand Muslims very well.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:30 PM
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And Dell, whats so wrong about praising Muslim music? .
can you turn me on to some? That call to prayer is worse than most anything I've ever heard. But then again I do like country a bit.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:35 PM
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As usual, Islam is the real problem, and all this other stuff is the result (or the symptom) of that cancer. Look at the leader of Turkey. His actions are 100% based on religion. If Israel attacks Hamas (Muslim Thugs,) he will cry like somebody intentionally ran over his dog. When Syria kills a thousand of it's own people (Muslims,) the guy has a totally different reaction. Antitrust, you will see that, no matter the appeasement given Muslims, they will never be happy. I am not against whatever is worked out over there, but if you think they will ever leave Jews alone, you are mistaken. Nothing (other than everyone sucking Mo's nut sack) will satisfy these people.
well said

BTW Israel nor any Israeli terrorist has ever attacked us. This President has made his view known and remains consistent. I give him credit for that but move further away from him because of it.
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Shouldn't Obama's priorities be the National Debt, unemployment, and getting the economy going than this stuff?
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:57 PM
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Shouldn't Obama's priorities be the National Debt, unemployment, and getting the economy going than this stuff?
Are you suggesting that we send Joe Biden in to clean up this mess? I guess as long as he can get back before the LL world Series starts.
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Shouldn't Obama's priorities be the National Debt, unemployment, and getting the economy going than this stuff?
It's called multi-tasking and all Presidents have to do it, keeping us safe is a rather important function of government and in today's world that includes dealing with Muslims, Israel, and all sorts of different situations...none as simple as folks want to make them.
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It's called multi-tasking and all Presidents have to do it, keeping us safe is a rather important function of government and in today's world that includes dealing with Muslims, Israel, and all sorts of different situations...none as simple as folks want to make them.
Obama sure isn't doing that great of a job multitasking.
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Interesting short article:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middl...tlement-freeze
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I liked Bibi's response - "Your plan is not going to happen."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/2...amas-idea.html

There will never be peace in the Middle East even if Israel gave back the 1967territory. The Arabs won't be satisfied until every Jew is out of the Middle East or dead.

These "negotiations" are akin to rearranging very old furniture trying to make it look like something new.
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Obama sure isn't doing that great of a job multitasking.
Well, when your party makes him get 60 votes, I don't think you really want him to do much. Why are you looking at him to do something when you won't let anything hardly pass with a simple majority? I mean do one or the other. If you want him to lead, then, stop acting like children. If you don't want him to lead, then, fine, but don't complain that he's not leading.
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Old 05-21-2011, 01:52 AM
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It will not play well among Jewish voters but it's the right thing to do...he's asking for compromise and that is the only path to peace in the region.
Unless the Jews leave Israel, there won't be peace there. These people don't have a land problem. They have a people problem. Their problem is they hate Jews, they have an education problem, and their religion does not encourage Democracy. It encourages Hypocrisy. I'm not against giving them land, but there is no way in hell that this will satisfy them. This is some sort of Liberal blind spot. "If we only do such n' such ....then, they'll get along." No, they will not. Try it. You'll see. They had these borders in '67, and they certainly weren't happy, or peaceful.

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