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Old 09-10-2011, 06:26 AM
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Default 9/10: BEL (P4); LaD (P4); AP (2yo's); DEL (Pedigree Notes); PID (Masters)

BELMONT PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


7th: OC/N1X, 3+, 8.5f-T (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Tough, deep group. Use as many as you can afford to start the Late P4..

Most Likely: #3 Top Surprize 9-2 3rd
Best Value: #7 Freshman Dorm 5-1 WON ($15.80)
Next Best: #1 Concert Stage 5-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #5 Annawon 4-1 5th


8th: MSW, 2yo, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Dutrow had a quiet Saratoga, but sure looks poised to kick off Fall Championship Meet well with top tab above and dominant-looking JMS runner here..

Most Likely: #7 Takes the Gold 6-5 WON ($3.00)
Best Value: #4 Odom 8-1 7th
Next Best: #2 Saint Honore 8-1 3rd
Super Add: #9 Ventura Bar 12-1 2nd


9th: 53rd Bowling Green H. (G2), 3+, 11f-IT (DD, Super)

Solid cast for this with the two faves appearing legitimate at numbers, and Mott-Juddmonte colt showing slow, steady improvement..

Best Value: #5 Colonialism 6-1 6th
Next Best: #7 Grassy 5-2 WON ($5.60)
Exotics Use: #3 Sanagas 2-1 4th
Super Add: #2 Sal the Barber 8-1 7th


10th: NY-MSW, 3+, 1m-T (Super)

Kind of a slippery way to end the sequence..

Best Value: #9 Harlan's Point 5-1 8th
Next Best: #2 Doublespeak 7-2 4th
Exotics Use: #3 Fast Grievance 12-1 WON ($29.80)
Super Add: #12 Great Privilege 6-1 9th


<$75 P4 Play:

7: 1-3-5-7-8
8: 4-7
9: 3-5-7
10: 2-3-7-9-12

5x2x3x5 = 150 x .50 = $75

$.50 P4 (7-7-7-3) Paid $367.25



DELAWARE PARK


3rd: MSW, 2yo, 1m-70y (P5, P3, DD, Super)

There isn't really enough info in these races to make selections, but there are two highly notable maiden events at DelPark Saturday with a slew of interesting pedigrees on display. Matz unviels yet another well bred baby here in #4 Arabian Spirit (4-1), an A.P. Indy colt out of Chilean uber-mare Wild Spirit who came to America in 2003 and promptly won the G2 Shuvee (Smok'n Frolic, You), G2 DelCap (Take Charge Lady, Summer Colony) and G1 Ruffian (You, Passing Shot) before being bested by Azeri in the '04 G1 Apple Blossom; #5 Unbridled Punch (Broken Vow) is a half to Westover Wildcat (Forest Wildcat); Second out #10 Red Jack (12-1) by Exchange Rate is a full brother to Ronny Werner and Oxbow Racing's nice Ermine who won the '07 Apple Blossom; Ham Smith debuts #3 Done Talking (15-1) who was dropped by '05 Cicada winner Done Talking (Dixieland Band), herself a product of top race and broodmare Gin Talking. Rick Porter paid $360k for #1 Brigade (5-1), a Tiznow bay that is from the first foal of a Forestry dam that was 0/5 for $17k on track..


8th: MSW, 2yo-F, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

#3 Quinte West (12-1), another from the Matz barn, is by First Samurai out of Seattle Slew mare Aldebaran Light, making her a half to Eskendereya; 7-2 #4 Here Music (Dehere) makes start #2 for Tony Dutrow and is from one of the nice families that the late Ned Evans created. She was delivered by Mambo Bell (Kingmambo), a half sister to Evans' standouts Silver Music, Musical Ghost and Prospector's Song; Mary Eppler brings out #5 Penthouse Party (12-1), by Offlee Wild and a half to Ibboyee; Larry Jones trainee #1a Tribal Council (6-1) is a Brereton Jones production by Indian Charlie that is a full to the wonderful turf sprinter Mr. Nightlinger; #10 Miss Pavarotti (15-1) is a half to 90's era hard hitter Umpateedle..



LOUISIANA DOWNS


POST-SCRATCHES


9th: Unbridled, 3+, 8.5f-T (P4, Super)

Most Likely: #2 Lonesome Street 2-1 2nd
Next Best: #3 Mystic 9-5 3rd
Exotics Use: #7 Heavenville 6-1 5th
Super Add: #10 Wildrally 12-1 8th


10th: Sunday Silence, 2yo, 1m-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1e Desormeaux entry 5-2 6th/12th
Best Value: #11 Pryce's Posse 8-1 3rd
Next Best: #8 Top Cat Boogie 5-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #7 Gung Ho 12-1 WON ($11.80)
Super Add: #6 Easton Jack 6-1 5th


11th: Super Derby (G2), 3yo, 9f (P3, DD, Super)

Fun, deep edition of the $500k event..

Best Value: #1 Meistersinger 9-2 8th
Next Best: #6 Alternation 3-1 4th
Exotics Use: #5 Prayer for Relief 9-5 WON ($4.40)
Super Add: #9 Awesome Bet 8-1 2nd


12th: River Cities, F&M-3+, 8.5f-T (DD, Super)

Best Value: #7 She's All In 5-1 WON ($13.00)
Next Best: #5 Category Seven 5-2 2nd
Exotics Use: #2 Skipping Town 7-2 5th
Super Add: #3 Vickies in Town 7-2 3rd


<$75 P4 Play:

9: 2-3
10: 1-6-7-8-9-11
11: 1-5-6
12: 2-3-5-7

2x6x3x4 = 144 x .50 = $72



ARLINGTON PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


8th: Arlington-Washington Lassie (G3), 2yo-F, 1m (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Best Value: #1 Venetian Sonata 10-1 4th
Next Best: #6 Anne of the Dance 4-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #7 Always Here Too 3-1 5th
Super Add: #4 Struck It Lucky 9-2 8th


9th: Arlngton-Washington Futurity (G3), 2yo, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Best Value: #11 Hogy 8-1 4th
Next Best: #14 Twelve Hundred 3-1 7th
Exotics Use: #9 Take Charge Indy 7-2 2nd
Super Add: #6 Shared Property 9-2 WON ($8.20)



PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS


POST-SCRATCHES


9th: Presque Isle Masters (G2), F&M-3+, 6.5f (DD, Super)

Best Value: #1 Shotgun Gulch 8-1 3rd
Next Best: #5 Beat the Blues 3-1 10th
Exotics Use: #8 Jenny's So Great 4-1 5th
Super Add: #11 Ariana D 10-1 2nd


Good luck!
Steve
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:31 PM
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BEL SCR/CHG'S


AP SCR/CHG'S


LaD SCR/CHG'S


DEL SCR/CHG'S (OFF THE TURF)


PID SCR/CHG'S
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Old 09-10-2011, 04:28 PM
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Anyone noticve in the BEL 7th how the "6-1" on the winner Freshman Dorm translated all the way up to a smile-inducing $15.80? Because he wasn't the full "7-1" ($16.00), he clicks down to 6-1. A great example of how the ultimate move to decimal odds (6.90-1) accurately reflects horses' prices.
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Old 09-10-2011, 04:33 PM
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Eskendereya sister QUINTE WEST gets loose at DEL... Shucking and jiving to elude capture too. May be allowed to participate though. Didn't really run off. Overlay on the Ibboyee sib PENTHOUSE PARTY. Used her underneath in the reverse tri key concept with a WP saver. (As an aside, why wasn't this filly sent to NY to run in state-bred company? Why make her job this much hard against some seriously bred bloodstock?)

POST RACE: Shocker! Pletcher-Robsham wins by 10! Yeesh.. Penthouse and Quinte both awful.
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Anyone notice in the BEL 7th how the "6-1" on the winner Freshman Dorm translated all the way up to a smile-inducing $15.80? Because he wasn't the full "7-1" ($16.00), he clicks down to 6-1. A great example of how the ultimate move to decimal odds (6.90-1) accurately reflects horses' prices.
Don't know if anyone looks at how doubles are bet early, but the 7wAll was punched quite a few times
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Don't know if anyone looks at how doubles are bet early, but the 7wAll was punched quite a few times
And with good reason..
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Sweet! Best possible result in BEL nightcap.. $367.25. Hope some rode along!
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Sweet! Best possible result in BEL nightcap.. $367.25. Hope some rode along!
Way to go Steve.

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Way to go Steve.

Thanks.. Makes up for ignoring old favorite Golden Yank at LaD and getting quashed in the P4 there immediately!
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Played around with Awesome Bet here under the logicals and with a saver. 12-1 pretty nice..
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Nice job today Steve...congrats.
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Great job today on the P4 Steve!

Congrats and thanks as always.
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Great job Steve !!!
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Great job!
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Thanks. Makes up for ignoring old favorite Golden Yank at LaD and getting quashed in the P4 there immediately!
Yes, good ol' Golden Yank who got the worst of it in 2007 Delta Jackpot. Z Humor & Turf War double-teamed him at finish line. I was there too! Should been double DQ.

Today just proves that putting quality jockey on solid horse like Golden Yank can yield an excellent effort and result.
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Nice job today Steve...congrats.
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Great job today on the P4 Steve!

Congrats and thanks as always.
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Great job!
Tony, Larry, Steve, Brad..

THX! Had a really fun afternoon of jump around wagering. Hope everyone did well..
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went 4/5 in the pick 5 at calder yesterday..found it interesting that the #7 was the favorite in the final with the #7 being the 3rd or 4th choice in the doubles, pic 3 and pick 4 but triggering a 4/5 in the pick 5. just something i noticed and found perplexing....btw i though the pick5 paying something in the $1800 without a horse over $10 was more then fair.
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