Egypt

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they could scope the local ymca and come up with better.

Maybe. Im sure the Dems could of come with something better than Obama. They still got the job done with Obama. Im waiting to see if anyone tries to go against Obama. Realyy havent heard any talk about it yet. Have you heard of any names yet?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Maybe. Im sure the Dems could of come with something better than Obama. They still got the job done with Obama. Im waiting to see if anyone tries to go against Obama. Realyy havent heard any talk about it yet. Have you heard of any names yet?

seeing that they won, i'm not sure about that one.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im fairly confident the Republicans will come up with something better. Im thinking they will if they take over the Senate in November's voting.

i give exhibit A, why i would never vote for sarah palin:


Palinisms
Did Sarah Palin really say that?
By Jacob Weisberg
Posted Tuesday, Feb. 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM ET


"But when it comes to, and David, perhaps what it is that you're suggesting in the question is should the GOP, should conservatives not reach out to others, not participate in events or forums that perhaps are rising within those forums are issues that maybe we don't personally agree with?"—on the inclusion of pro-gay groups in the CPAC conference, in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Feb. 4, 2011


all i can say to that bit, is....huh? thanks to slate for that tidbit of goo.

[Danzig]

or, here's this one, on egypt and mubarak.

"And nobody yet has, no body yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak, and I'm not real enthused about what it is that that's being done on a national level and from D.C. in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt."—on President Obama's response to the turmoil in Egypt, in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Feb. 4, 2011

from slate...

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence. Granted, a strong dictatorship doesn't allow terrorism, so a vacuum is what would be feared. Certainly that is a worry. Right now, there are not heavy extremist elements in the country. The army is conscription and beloved and trusted by the people (better be, because they've essentially had a coup)

And Obama is praising the protesters TODAY!!!! Way to go! The ignorance of hope and change strikes again?

CBS News correspondent Lara Logan was recovering in a U.S. hospital Tuesday from a sexual attack and beating she suffered while reporting on the tumultuous events in Cairo.

Logan was in the city’s Tahrir Square on Friday after Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak stepped down when she, her team and their security “were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration,” CBS said in a statement Tuesday. The network described a mob of more than 200 people “whipped into a frenzy.” Separated from her crew in the crush of the violent pack, she suffered what CBS called “a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating.” She was saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers, the network said. AP

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Self-loathing". Seriously? Are you looking the mirror or something?

I've started a company from scratch, made a profit and sold it, and now own another. Love that capitalism

Who do you work for?

You know who I work for. And I think you have capitalism and socialism all mixed up. I know you praised Clinton for furnishing you a educational loan and you hate your insurance co (at least your former ins. co.) hopefully. You want the government to offer you as well as anyone else even those who can't afford and those who have to be supplemented a health policy. You agreed with every bailout program ever imagined by Obama GM, Fannie/Freddie etc etc government involvement and now you love capitalism? That's about as funny as your christians v. muslims arguements.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You know who I work for.

No. I don't. That must be why I asked. Ya think?

And I think you have capitalism and socialism all mixed up.

And I think you are superficial and shallow in your political thinking, with no ability to realize nuance or try to resolve apparent contradiction, with little true understanding of the meaning of the words you use. The best you can do is pigeonhole into broad categories, on the most superficial and simplistic level.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And Obama is praising the protesters TODAY!!!! Way to go! The ignorance of hope and change strikes again?

CBS News correspondent Lara Logan was recovering in a U.S. hospital Tuesday from a sexual attack and beating she suffered while reporting on the tumultuous events in Cairo.

Logan was in the city’s Tahrir Square on Friday after Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak stepped down when she, her team and their security “were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration,” CBS said in a statement Tuesday. The network described a mob of more than 200 people “whipped into a frenzy.” Separated from her crew in the crush of the violent pack, she suffered what CBS called “a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating.” She was saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers, the network said. AP

Wont suprise me if Obama decides to give Egypt more aid. Very good possibility if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. I don't. That must be why I asked. Ya think?



And I think you are superficial and shallow in your political thinking, with no ability to realize nuance or try to resolve apparent contradiction, with little true understanding of the meaning of the words you use. The best you can do is pigeonhole into broad categories, on the most superficial and simplistic level.

And your not superficial and shallow in your political thinking? LMAO.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I hope Libya and Gaddafi is on the 'to-do' list.

One huge positve to come out of Egypt.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Christopher Lee resigned his job because:

A) His focus is entirely upon saving his marriage and family now
B) Not suitable behaviour for a "family values" elected official.
C) This is really just the tip of the iceberg - if still a GOP congressman, the scrutiny would be never-ending and even more revealing.

Seriously - don't you think the resignation was a bit abrupt? Or is he indeed that humiliated?

He didn't have the balls this guy does?

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/C...6/01/id/398484

[dellinger63]

How democracy and freedom will function or even exist in a country where its citizens voted for a theocracy should be telling. The Muslim Brotherhood, who publicly stated it would not be running candidates in the election, recently took 45% of Parliament. Other theocratic based parties took an additional 15% of seats, ensuring a solid majority.

In hindsight was the U.S. involvement and assistance in facilitating the formation of yet another theocracy in the mid-east a mistake? Considering Egypt’s more than capable military, should the U.S. now be concerned with a religiously based ruling political party, whose initial move into politics was a lie?

Whether or not the evolvement of Egypt into a theocracy would have taken place without U.S. assistance will never be known. More than likely but what is known is $3 billion plus would have been saved remaining on the sidelines.

The fact this administration so easily dispensed with the cash is a much truer indication of the concern they have for ‘taxpayer money’ than the false words pleading for the opportunity to streamline government.

[Danzig]

i thought the u.s. got a lot of criticism for backing mubarek, even after it was evident he was going to be deposed? now we were supporters??

sloppy thing, democracy. the voters spoke; if they voted in the muslim brotherhood, so be it.
as for foreign aid, one of the favorite whipping boys of fans of smaller government-that amount is a drop in the bucket. again, the biggest drains on our treasury are defense and then medicare/aid/ss. you can add up every other budget item, every other department-the totals don't add up to what those two albatrosses equal.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that amount is a drop in the bucket. .

so is bringing a sack lunch to work when compared to mortgage/insurance payments but many of us do it.

And when considering

White House officials estimated the consolidation would save $3 billion during the next 10 years and eliminate 1,000 to 2,000 jobs through attrition — as employees leave, they would not be replaced. The savings represent a tiny fraction of the overall federal budget of nearly $4 trillion annually.

To put it more into perspective the money we would have saved simply by not assisting Egypt is equal to the total amount Obama plans to save consolidating OVER TEN YEARS!