Religious Freedomz in the USA

Originally Posted by Riot

If males could have babies, birth control would be free, available everywhere.

And abortion would be a sacrament!


Ocala Mike

Originally Posted by Riot

Conservatives don't like women having reproductive freedom. They rather support big government dictatorships and theocracies, delineating what certain people can and cannot do. Especially women. The assault on woman's rights is unprecedented in the past 60 years. Government in your bedroom and private life. These people are dictatorial loons. Sharia Law in the US - only it's "Christian" Law they want to impose.

They want to impose Genesis 3:16 -

" Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

I think I heard Santorum make outlandish remarks invoking Satan as the great enemy of the US. Swear he's sounding more and more like a mullah every day. Next it'll be zombies, vampires, and werewolves trying to deprive us of our freedom.


Ocala Mike

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

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Do you even know what a tax credit is? What if your small business doesn't show much of a profit and there is nothing to credit against? Are you still excited about the theoretical credits that will help you against the liabilities that are actual?

[Danzig]

i'll take a tax credit over a deduction any day. deductions aren't dollar for dollar, credits are.

a deduction lowers your income level. the corresponding tax may go down a few bucks.
a credit is real money. if you owe nothing, you get that in form of a 'refund'.

[Danzig]

bennett on ppuca:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/22/opinio...ntent=My+Yahoo


in a meeting two weeks ago, we were told that current regulations cost employers $10k per employee per year. that's not just health regs, but all regulations that businesses must adhere to.
the number of regulations over the years has increased dramatically. it was an eye opening chart showing the rise-looked like steep steps!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Do you even know what a tax credit is? What if your small business doesn't show much of a profit and there is nothing to credit against? Are you still excited about the theoretical credits that will help you against the liabilities that are actual?

Yes. I think you need to read up on them.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes. I think you need to read up on them.

Coming from the only person in the known world that has read the bill. Even those who voted for it didn't read it, but you did. Just like you know the legal language of non-released documents.
Do you seriously believe (know because you read and understand the bill, please provide excerpts) that this will not cost employers money? That credits will make up for it, that is not the way this administration plays.

[Clip-Clop]

This does sound awesome!!!

Businesses that pay their employees a smaller amount get a larger tax credit, and businesses that pay higher wages get a smaller tax credit. The amount of the tax credit is phased out by a ratio of the employers average annual wages. An employer that has average annual wages of $25,000.00 would receive a tax credit equal to 50% of the employers contributions to it’s employees health insurance premiums. If the employer has average annual wages of $35,000.00 the tax credit is reduced to 20%. If the employers average annual wage is $50,000.00 they are not eligible for the tax credit.

http://democrats.senate.gov/pdfs/ref...t.pdf#page=307

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Coming from the only person in the known world that has read the bill. Even those who voted for it didn't read it, but you did. Just like you know the legal language of non-released documents.
Do you seriously believe (know because you read and understand the bill, please provide excerpts) that this will not cost employers money? That credits will make up for it, that is not the way this administration plays.

Yes, you hate the bill, and you're not interested in what it actually says, because that wouldn't change your mind. Knew that. Do you have anything useful to add? Other than just making up crap like above?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, you hate the bill, and you're not interested in what it actually says, because that wouldn't change your mind. Knew that. Do you have anything useful to add? Other than just making up crap like above?

You mean making up crap like the providing the actual bill and the summary of the pages that follow in the link?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

You mean making up crap like the providing the actual bill and the summary of the pages that follow in the link?

No. You trying to make the argument that tax credits, that save businesses money and enable them to provide medical insurance for their employees, is a bad thing.

Carry on

This, by the way, is the GOP nightmare unfolding in real time: that after the ACA was passed two years ago, and more people are now insured, and costs have started to fall, and everyone has started to realize benefits of the ACA before the 2012 election - their "death panel" and "government takeover" lies will be fully exposed.

See, now the GOP Presidential candidates, if elected, have pledged to take away insurance from millions of newly insured, and raise costs, and remove benefits from the elderly and everyone else, if they repeal the ACA as they ridiculously keep saying they want to.