OUTRAGUS government overreach by FDA!

[Riot]

This is OUTRAGUS! massive government overreach by the Food and Drug Administration, which shouldn't even EXIST and be paid for by my tax dollars !

How DARE THE GOVMENT tell free market cattle men how to raise the meat they sell us. This is OUTRAGUS! Freekin' evironmental and health librul commie freaks poking their heads into MY FOOD.

A federal judge on Thursday ordered U.S. regulators to start proceedings to withdraw approval for the use of common antibiotics in animal feed, citing concerns that overuse is endangering human health by creating antibiotic-resistant "superbugs".

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/468304.../#.T2xuH9n4K1p

[Clip-Clop]

The creation of superbugs is due to parents racing their kids to the Dr. every time they sneeze and accepting (read demanding) antibiotics for them. They have all but eliminated normal herd immunity. It isn't because of digested antibiotics that are remaining in food that has been slaughtered, bled, aged (chem or other) then cooked.
You are a vet, how long does an orally ingested antibiotic remain in the intramuscular system of a cow?

Aspartame, wood pulp and msg still ok. Got it

[pointman]

This is not nearly as outrageous as the government attempt to overreach by expanding the commerce clause to penalize people for not doing something, specifically, not purchasing health insurance.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The creation of superbugs is due to parents racing their kids to the Dr. every time they sneeze and accepting (read demanding) antibiotics for them. They have all but eliminated normal herd immunity. It isn't because of digested antibiotics that are remaining in food that has been slaughtered, bled, aged (chem or other) then cooked.
You are a vet, how long does an orally ingested antibiotic remain in the intramuscular system of a cow?

What does science matter? they ahave no right to violate the constitutional rights of ranchers, and cost them money. Excessive govrmnt interference! What happened to our rights?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

This is not nearly as outrageous as the government attempt to overreach by expanding the commerce clause to penalize people for not doing something, specifically, not purchasing health insurance.

No. sh.iat. two ultra-conservative long time district judges upheld it as constitutional? are they crazy? the republicans who came up with this moronic 'everybody has to be self-responsible for their own healthcare by purchasing insurance" baloney was crazy 20 years ago when they thought it up. and are still crazy now thinking this is a good idea.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The creation of superbugs is due to parents racing their kids to the Dr. every time they sneeze and accepting (read demanding) antibiotics for them. They have all but eliminated normal herd immunity. It isn't because of digested antibiotics that are remaining in food that has been slaughtered, bled, aged (chem or other) then cooked.
You are a vet, how long does an orally ingested antibiotic remain in the intramuscular system of a cow?

You don't really think that she is a vet do you?

What vet spends 24/7 in the politics section of horse racing message board?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. sh.iat. two ultra-conservative long time district judges upheld it as constitutional? are they crazy? the republicans who came up with this moronic 'everybody has to be self-responsible for their own healthcare by purchasing insurance" baloney was crazy 20 years ago when they thought it up. and are still crazy now thinking this is a good idea.

You can put whatever crazy illogical spin you want on it, as you incessantly do here. It is unconstitutional.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

You don't really think that she is a vet do you?

What vet spends 24/7 in the politics section of horse racing message board?

^^^ The Ad Hominem personal attack: for people who aren't smart enough to debate a subject.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

^^^ The Ad Hominem personal attack: for people who aren't smart enough to debate a subject.

You are completely delusional. You really need to take your meds.

There is no such thing as debating with you, politicunt.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

You are completely delusional. You really need to take your meds.

There is no such thing as debating with you, politicunt.

Such a brave, big man

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by pointman

What vet spends 24/7 in the politics section of horse racing message board?

One that has no business?

She is a vet because I know trainers that would NEVER use her!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The creation of superbugs is due to parents racing their kids to the Dr. every time they sneeze and accepting (read demanding) antibiotics for them. They have all but eliminated normal herd immunity. It isn't because of digested antibiotics that are remaining in food that has been slaughtered, bled, aged (chem or other) then cooked.
You are a vet, how long does an orally ingested antibiotic remain in the intramuscular system of a cow?

This statement smacks of Santorum-esque "In my heart I know this is true" -ism. Please give some sources to back up the assertion that superbugs are solely due to parental overuse of antibiotics on their children.

The use of antibiotics in food animals became necessary as more and more animals were jammed into smaller and smaller areas. If herd immunity worked the way you seem to think it does, factory farm animals should be healthier than free-range animals, not the other way around.

But I look forward to your sources, as I am always interested in learning something new.

"Post your sources...now let me explain my opinion without sources."

F.uckkkk the f.uuuuuck off GenuineCrazyLady.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This statement smacks of Santorum-esque "In my heart I know this is true" -ism. Please give some sources to back up the assertion that superbugs are solely due to parental overuse of antibiotics on their children.

It won't happen. It's a ridiculous statement with zero basis in physiologic reality.

What you pointed out, however, about why antibiotics are used, will necessarily cause changes in the common husbandry of cattle, poultry. This has been an idea whose time should have come decades ago, unfortunately. I'm glad to see it.

In KY, we raise beef cattle on the terrific, dense grass we have, we can have 40 per 100 acres. In western Texas, range cattle need 40 acres or so per cow, so feedlots are used to make it financially viable. That will have to change. That is a plus for regions like KY, TN, and a huge negative for Nebraska, Kansas, Texas where they use corn and silage rather than grass feeding.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

One that has no business?

She is a vet because I know trainers that would NEVER use her!

You might reconsider your choice of ignorantly commenting upon my professional qualifications in public by deleting this post.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You might reconsider your choice of ignorantly commenting upon my professional qualifications in public by deleting this post.

I assured the doubters you in fact are a vet.

And admittedly your personality is far more a factor than your professional qualifications.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I assured the doubters you in fact are a vet.

And admittedly your personality is far more a factor than your professional qualifications.

Again, you might reconsider your choice of lying.

[dellinger63]

I will compromise and put you on my iggy list.

Etch a sketch away!

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by pointman

You are completely delusional. You really need to take your meds.

There is no such thing as debating with you, politicunt.

Hey - who is paying for those meds? I hope it's not the taxpayer.