Flower Alley with debuters

[Calzone Lord]

2012: 10-1-2-1 (lone winner took a maiden claiming race with a $12,500 tag at 7-to-1 odds. The two second place finishers both debuted for $7,500 tags -- one at Will Rodgers Downs and the other at Penn National)

2011: 61-4-6-9 (7% wins and just a $0.87 ROI -- I'll Have Another was one of those four winners when he scored at 9/2 odds in a MSW race at Hollywood Park)

2010: 38-1-1-6 (3% wins and just a $0.74 ROI -- the winner took a MSW race at Zia Park and the 2nd place finisher debuted for a tag at Emerald Downs)


He's 6-for-109 with debuters. He's had just two first-time-starters win at the Maiden Special Weight level in the United States. One of them was I'll Have Another, the other is Zia Park debut winner Jam'n Jackson.

[Indian Charlie]

Jam'n Jackson has three siblings. One of those won first time out for sure, another is one for three, and I can't determine if it won first out.

I'd say Flower Alley won't be at 75k if IHA wins the Belmont. I think he's certain to climb up to at least 150k.

[Calzone Lord]

Arch is an awesome sire and broodmare sire.

Better to go looking around for decent Arch mares than waste any money on Flower Alley.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Jam'n Jackson has three siblings. One of those won first time out for sure, another is one for three, and I can't determine if it won first out.

I'd say Flower Alley won't be at 75k if IHA wins the Belmont. I think he's certain to climb up to at least 150k.

Flower Alley was standing for $7,500 before the Derby. He's $15,000 right now. Even if he wins the Belmont, he's not going to be more than $30,000 or so.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Flower Alley was standing for $7,500 before the Derby. He's $15,000 right now. Even if he wins the Belmont, he's not going to be more than $30,000 or so.

I was mocking people who thought his fee was going to go through the roof.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Arch is an awesome sire and broodmare sire.

Better to go looking around for decent Arch mares than waste any money on Flower Alley.

http://www.paulickreport.com/feature...#ShowPoll_Poll

Interesting interview with Case Clay about things like numbers of mares booked, price, book quality. Starrer just booked to him (Flower Alley, not Case Clay ).