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Old 07-18-2012, 01:13 PM
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Listen, we all understand that the Obama apologists share the same disdain for the Constitution that he does, but if you're going to really ask such an absurd question, you really ought to load up on a little Constitution 101 before doing so.
It has nothing to do with the Constitution, does it?

Proud patriot for my entire life, thanks. Especially love that uniquely American phrase, "All men are created equal". Even wingnuts and conspiracy theorists.

Bless their hearts.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:24 PM
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Interesting take by Howard Fineman on why the GOP is turning on Mitt Romney:

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WASHINGTON -- Months after he mathematically locked up the Republican presidential nomination, Mitt Romney remains a political hairball that GOP insiders -- conservative and otherwise -- wish they could cough up before the convention in Tampa, Fla., next month.

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That is the real, unspoken political meaning behind the remarkable, rising chorus of [ GOP ] voices calling on the presumptive party nominee to release more of his federal tax returns to the public.

"The fact is, no one likes the guy or believes in him," said the campaign manager for a former Romney rival, who declined to be quoted by name because his former boss is on record supporting Romney's campaign against incumbent President Barack Obama.

"Look back at our 2008 primaries," he said. "Who did all the other candidates dislike? Romney. Look at this year. Who did all the other candidates dislike? Romney. No one wants Obama to win, but no one likes the guy who is running against him."

Republican leaders, especially conservatives, see Romney as a malleable, cynical power-grabber without principle or compass.

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Over the last week, a disparate array of Republican and conservative leaders have called on Romney to do what he is clearly loathe to do: release several years if not a decade or more of his federal tax returns. It is an unspoken form of payback.

The list [ demanding payback ] is not only a veritable who's who of the party, but a not-so-subtle roster of people who opposed Romney for the presidential nomination. That they have not fallen in line behind Romney's stonewalling is a telling sign.

Continued http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1681636.html
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:31 PM
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I didn't say that, did I?

Mitt Romney has a long history of being caught being a baldfaced liar in the Republican primaries. The press has already noted his unprecedented ability to starkly lie about his opponents, even after being factually corrected. He has continued that after the primary, and even the press has had about enough of it.

This goes to Romney's credibility and trustworthiness if he were president ... which at this point, is hanging by a very tenuous thread.

PS Nobody gives a sh.iat that the man is wealthy. Most of our presidents have been the wealthiest men of their class, and Romney isn't, by far, the first "extremely" wealthy, privileged guy to run for president.
A Swiss bank account will carry whatever form of currency you wish, they do not require it to be converted to Francs. Were that the case there would be far too many Francs in circulation and the value of the currency would be zero. Like here.

In an election based heavily on class warfare, it is very important that the man is wealthy. Particularly when he is extraordinarily so.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:47 PM
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It has nothing to do with the Constitution, does it?

Proud patriot for my entire life, thanks. Especially love that uniquely American phrase, "All men are created equal". Even wingnuts and conspiracy theorists.

Bless their hearts.
Huh Whaaa???!! Thank you for your Patriotism, but I don't recall anyone ever (at least I never) questioned it - but thanks for bringing it up...

From the Obama Dictionary:

US Constitution ~ A cute, little list of funny suggestions on how to run things, starting with my illegitimate presidency and ending with my obliteration of at least half of the Bill of Rights. Go Me!!
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:14 PM
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For example everybody else's IRA, at a deposit of $2,000 a year, for 30 years has ... well, not multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars, due to specialized breaks the wealthy get regarding what can be considered a deposit, like Mitt
IRA contributions have not been limited to $2,000 (for each spouse) since 2001.

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In an election based heavily on class warfare, it is very important that the man is wealthy. Particularly when he is extraordinarily so.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:12 PM
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I laughed. You conspiracy theorists are hilarious entertainment
Figured this would be your response but the truth hurts...his ss card is from Ct yet he has never lived here and was born in Hawaii...maybe
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Here's another possibility: Romney may not want to release his tax returns because it will show that he has not tithed correctly to the Mormon church. This blogsite shows the rather stringent rules the LDS church has with regards to paying one's taxes:

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,567952
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:43 AM
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Here's another possibility: Romney may not want to release his tax returns because it will show that he has not tithed correctly to the Mormon church. This blogsite shows the rather stringent rules the LDS church has with regards to paying one's taxes:

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,567952
Yeah, I've heard that, too. Romney has said he meets annually with his church leaders regarding what he owes to them via his complicated financial positions. And Ann Romney made a big deal yesterday in her morning interview about saying they give 10% to their religion.

I think it's because we'll see that Romney has paid little to no tax on his multi-millions, less than 15% he arranged for 2009. Tax experts are pointing out that his 2009 "release" is a farce, as he's not even included all documents, and what was released doesn't make sense.

Romeny has a major problem emerging, and it's that he's repeatedly shown to be a stone cold liar. That's clear through this campaign primary, and the last, aborted campaign in 2008

There is also the worry by some that Romney will inject Mormonism into government, as his church requires, like Dominionism requires of Palin, Santorum, etc.

Edit: and what new Romney story breaks today? More tax evasion, taking a massive charitable deduction for it, and Bain right now killing more American jobs to send them overseas:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1687777.html

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney saved himself hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes in 2010 by transferring stock in two companies from his personal account to a nonprofit entity he set up. The stock maneuver included $172,397 in shares of Sensata Technologies, a company now under fire for a high-profile effort to offshore central Illinois jobs to China.
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