Union Rags out for remainder of.. life

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The new thread title makes it sound like he just died.

You're right, it does.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Not the best bred? He's certainly not blue collar either. Nevermind that, unlike IHA, his successful sire and grandsire are both dead and no competition. Throw a rock at his female family and you'll hit GSW/GSP/SWs and sires/producers of the same. They're not all champions (well, his 3rd dam is and his 2nd dam set a NTR against Darby Creek Road), but enough of them have enough accomplishments I don't see why it's laughable that he'd be getting interest. He's got precocity but won a classic race. What's not to like? The only thing that comes immediately to mind is his lack of a triple digit Beyer.

I said he wasnt the best bred, i didnt say he was poorly bred. Hes not a bode, imo hes not a top player, and right now when money is tight, many go to tried and true studs. The speculation was about just how much demand there was, and from whom.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I said he wasnt the best bred, i didnt say he was poorly bred. Hes not a bode, imo hes not a top player, and right now when money is tight, many go to tried and true studs. The speculation was about just how much demand there was, and from whom.

The phrase "not the best bred" has a negative connotation to it. It implies blue collar which he isn't. 'Not as well bred as horse X' means something else to me, but even then there's more than one slot for a new stallion out there so why would he have to be the very best bred? He's well bred and accomplished, ergo a nice stallion prospect. You don't have to be Bodemeister to get attention. The situation both he and Union Rags have going for them is dad's in Japan so breeders gotta figure out something else unless they wanna hop over there and buy one. You'd think Lanes End might want him as they had Dixieland Band (one of their original stallions) and Dixie Union and only have Grasshopper in Texas.

Going to tried and true stallions is one thing, but if you want one from that branch of the Northern Dancer sireline, you gotta go to Union Rags unless you wanna throw one to five thousand at a regional sire. He'll enter stud far and away the most highly priced son of Dixie Union and no son of Dixieland Band would be in the same ballpark. He also looks pretty nice. I'm optimistic about how commercial his babies will be. IHA's demand was significantly hurt by both the fact that his sire and grandsire were going to get mares above him quality-wise and a less than stellar female family when it comes to a stallion pedigree. Neither situation is the case with Union Rags who has zero competition from his own family in Kentucky. It's really a perfect storm in this economy for him to get a position in the US. Wouldn't be shocked if it came from elsewhere, but you'd think he'd get more offers than IHA here.

[richard]

He and Belmont S winner Colonial Affair both have the same 3rd dam. Glad Rags.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

The phrase "not the best bred" has a negative connotation to it. It implies blue collar which he isn't. 'Not as well bred as horse X' means something else to me, but even then there's more than one slot for a new stallion out there so why would he have to be the very best bred? He's well bred and accomplished, ergo a nice stallion prospect. You don't have to be Bodemeister to get attention. The situation both he and Union Rags have going for them is dad's in Japan so breeders gotta figure out something else unless they wanna hop over there and buy one. You'd think Lanes End might want him as they had Dixieland Band (one of their original stallions) and Dixie Union and only have Grasshopper in Texas.

Going to tried and true stallions is one thing, but if you want one from that branch of the Northern Dancer sireline, you gotta go to Union Rags unless you wanna throw one to five thousand at a regional sire. He'll enter stud far and away the most highly priced son of Dixie Union and no son of Dixieland Band would be in the same ballpark. He also looks pretty nice. I'm optimistic about how commercial his babies will be. IHA's demand was significantly hurt by both the fact that his sire and grandsire were going to get mares above him quality-wise and a less than stellar female family when it comes to a stallion pedigree. Neither situation is the case with Union Rags who has zero competition from his own family in Kentucky. It's really a perfect storm in this economy for him to get a position in the US. Wouldn't be shocked if it came from elsewhere, but you'd think he'd get more offers than IHA here.

i'll keep that in mind next time. but i was using it in comparison to the other top 3 yo's thus far this year, as in he's not as well bred as some of the others that have made a scene. with it still only being july, the remaining horses still have a ways to go to prove themselves. at any rate, apparently there was enough buzz to warrant them not taking a risk to bring him back. they didn't want to take a chance in him lessening any value by pulling an 'i want revenge' type thing.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

You'd think Lanes End might want him as they had Dixieland Band (one of their original stallions) and Dixie Union and only have Grasshopper in Texas.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...d-at-lanes-end