WTF has this world come to?

[dellinger63]

How dare this woman allowed herself to be raped. Shame on her and thanks for the compassion the UAE government showed in pardoning her for her mistake.

This from arguably the most westernized country in the Mideast?

What about the rapist?

Does he even get a slap on the wrist?

Or does he get a pat on the back and a stud session with Bernadini?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...3CxQYAlcMSYEON

[Stickhorse]

Thanks for the post.

You never know what interesting stuff you'll fine in the politics/society forum. Glad Steve opened it back up.

[GenuineRisk]

Although I am an ardent feminist, and believe the sex was nonconsensual, in fact, the gov't was put in an awkward position when she retracted her initial accusation of rape:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/20/world/...pe-controversy

AND

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...dubai-sex-case

From what I can gather, she was advised by the authorities to retract her rape allegation so as to make the whole thing go away. Once she did, she was then accused of having (consensual) sex outside of marriage (ridiculous, but look, that's the law of the land. And, FYI, that's why you don't want religion dictating your laws, are you listening, GOP? ), and making a false statement to the authorities, which, I think, is also illegal here, yes? And also of consuming alcohol (see: religion, above).

When she was pardoned, the Sudanese man was also pardoned (he was initially convicted of the same charges she was), and both were fired from their jobs (same company) for drinking and causing trouble with the police.

Again- she had retracted the accusation of rape, so that wasn't even a considerable charge by the time the court got to it. She may have dropped the accusation because she was pressured to (hardly surprising; happens here all the time, too) but it doesn't change what the court had in front of them when the time came to sentence. And they didn't have a rape allegation by then.

[Danzig]

word to the wise, don't travel to any of these backward countries that think sex is the govt's business, where you can be charged like this lady was. absolutely ridiculous.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

word to the wise, don't travel to any of these backward countries that think sex is the govt's business, where you can be charged like this lady was. absolutely ridiculous.

Adultery is illegal in 22 of the 50 states. In Massachusetts, Idaho, Michigan, Oklahoma and Wisconsin it's a felony offense.

Originally Posted by Danzig

don't travel to any of these backward countries that think sex is the govt's business, where you can be charged like this lady was

Travel to backward countries? From what's been going on in some of our state houses lately, you really don't need a passport to venture to places where the government wants to legislate bedroom activities.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

Travel to backward countries? From what's been going on in some of our state houses lately, you really don't need a passport to venture to places where the government wants to legislate bedroom activities.

virginia, and that horrid attorney general immediately come to mind.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Adultery is illegal in 22 of the 50 states. In Massachusetts, Idaho, Michigan, Oklahoma and Wisconsin it's a felony offense.

we have many archaic laws still on the books. i doubt anyone has been charged with that in years.
it's illegal to mispronounce the name 'arkansas' if you're in arkansas. i doubt anyone tries to enforce it tho.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

virginia, and that horrid attorney general immediately come to mind.

That horrid AG might be our next gov..

Don't know much about McAuliffe but i'll take anyone over Cuccinelli.

Time magazine proclaimed the race “The Dirtiest, Nastiest, Low-Down Campaign in America,” one that has drawn comparisons to the polarization of the U.S. Congress and the 2012 presidential contest.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...751_story.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

That horrid AG might be our next gov..

Don't know much about McAuliffe but i'll take anyone over Cuccinelli.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...751_story.html

wth is WRONG with you guys up there? that the best you can find to run? ugh

virginia will be for (jailing) lovers soon.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

wth is WRONG with you guys up there? that the best you can find to run? ugh

virginia will be for (jailing) lovers soon. true.

Sorry to say but yeah...the repubs are so far right they went over the edge and these new lefties aren't much better...But, you can buy as many guns a month as you want.. in VA...and we have several otb's state wide..
Our neighbor to the south NC is supposed to be even worse...according to the bit by John Oliver few nites ago..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Sorry to say but yeah...the repubs are so far right they went over the edge and these new lefties aren't much better...But, you can buy as many guns a month as you want.. in VA...and we have several otb's state wide..
Our neighbor to the south NC is supposed to be even worse...according to the bit by John Oliver few nites ago..

yeah, i saw that bit. how proud SC must be.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

we have many archaic laws still on the books. i doubt anyone has been charged with that in years.
it's illegal to mispronounce the name 'arkansas' if you're in arkansas. i doubt anyone tries to enforce it tho.

New York woman charged with it in 2010:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/09/...with-adultery/

And the woman in Dubai was pardoned, so same difference; she didn't end up in jail for a year for it.

Adultery is still regularly prosecuted in our military, too, isn't it?

Fact is, the woman in Dubai wasn't convicted of anything that you couldn't be convicted of here- adultery (not often enforced, but illegal in almost half of the states), making a false statement and drinking (you can arrested for public intoxication in many areas of the country, even if you aren't driving or anything like that).

I'm not disagreeing with you that it's idiotic for governments to insert themselves into the sex lives of private citizens, just that, in this case, the media spun a story in such a way that we could all shake our heads about those barbaric Arab nations jailing a woman for reporting a rape, when in fact that wasn't what happened. She rescinded the rape accusation and then was convicted for things that she confessed to and which are also illegal here in the good old US of A.

The real story, I think, is why she was pressured to rescind the claim of rape, because that's also something a lot of rape victims face here. And here they also get charged with making a false report (warning: article may raise your blood pressure):
http://msmagazine.com/blog/2011/04/1...orting-a-rape/

[Danzig]

unreal...altho one has to wonder if they just wanted to be as harsh as possible since the two were going to town in a park with kids present (clothed or unclothed).

but it's true, we do like to feel superior...some of us also think we shouldn't try to improve at all from where we're at, but should just be happy that it's better here.


as for the military, i'm not sure if/how often people are charged with adultery any more. haven't been in for some time. probably only brought up in a case like the commanding officer who faked his own death to try to end an affair. not sure if they tacked it on, but they may have just because the guy was such an idiot.


and i hate what rape victims go thru, but people crying rape when they shouldn't has made it harder on those who truly are victims.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but it's true, we do like to feel superior...some of us also think we shouldn't try to improve at all from where we're at, but should just be happy that it's better here..

13 arrests over a 38 year period resulting in no jail time, in a State as large as New York? I'm surprised there isn't protests in the streets.

BTW the story seems to be missing some key facts

Corona was sentenced to 12 months probation on Nov. 24 for a public lewdness conviction. That case began June 4, 2010, when she and Justin Amend, 29, of Oakfield were arrested for public lewdness, after police observed them having sex on a picnic table in Batavia’s Farrall Park.

Amend pleaded guilty to the lewdness charge in August. The case took a turn when a warrant was issued for his arrest because Amend moved to Florida and missed his November sentencing hearing.

He appeared in City Court Wednesday. City Judge Robert Balbick sentenced him to 30 days in jail.

The public lewdness case garnered extensive media coverage because Corona, who is married, was also charged with adultery. The adultery count was dropped as part of a plea bargain

and an update

Suzanne Corona was sentenced to six days in jail this week after she pleaded guilty to violating her probation.

The petit larceny charge is pending against Corona. She allegedly attempted to shoplift about $50 worth of merchandise from Stagecoach Florist in Batavia City Centre.

Bottom line is she got a year probation and he got 30 days in jail, most likely for running.

If she wasn't a thief she'd have avoided jail all-together.

Boy her kid must be proud of her!

http://thedailynewsonline.com/news/a...cc4c03286.html