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Old 08-02-2014, 09:36 AM
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a few years back
i would always check for a sire called war chant if a race was on turf
if it was a mud track i used to look for more then ready java gold polish navy king mambo
im talking like 10 years ago
who are the big sires onw for turf and mud?
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Old 08-02-2014, 03:29 PM
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a few years back
i would always check for a sire called war chant if a race was on turf
if it was a mud track i used to look for more then ready java gold polish navy king mambo
im talking like 10 years ago
who are the big sires onw for turf and mud?
Here are the leading turf sires for the last two years. I don't know where to find the leading mud sires.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ire-lists/turf

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...hive/2013/turf

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Old 08-02-2014, 04:36 PM
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thanks for postin RP...good info
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:55 PM
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I look for the War Front runners down the hill at SA, they seem to do pretty good, I do not know the stats on them...wins, ROI, etc
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:58 PM
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http://www1.drf.com/misc/tomlinson.html

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You might try these -

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Old 08-04-2014, 09:45 PM
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If any horse has A.P. Indy as their grandsire or sire, they will probably handle mud. It's not a set rule, just an observation.
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