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Old 07-07-2007, 02:07 AM
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I know it's Steve Knapp but the betting public is crazy to let Milady's Pride go off at such high odds in this crap field.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:15 AM
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Alright the only reason I'm still up is because the Marlins can't close the door on the freaking Dodgers!
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:21 AM
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I know it's Steve Knapp but the betting public is crazy to let Milady's Pride go off at such high odds in this crap field.
Yeah that was a Steve Knapp performance. Just horrible. I don't know why this guy has a license.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:31 AM
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I don't know if I trust Talamo on Nashoba's Key tommorow anymore.
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:21 AM
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I bet this horse to win, like I said I would earlier in this thread.
But here is a classic example of why I don't totally blast the riders for what trouble happens during these races.
Some years back, on FOX, the Whitney at Saratoga was covered and Ron Ellis was one of the analysts. As soon as the race was over he wasted zero time raggin' on Jorge Chavez for moving 5 wide on the turn in a race Behrens lost narrowly to Victory Gallop ( correct me if I have the race and either runner's name wrong, this had to be more than 7 years ago now ).
Chavez's only other option was to try to find room between or inside a bunch of longshots everyone knew were going to stop running way before midstretch. One of the other analysts instantly corrected him.
I bring this up because I've noticed on more than one occassion, recently on TVG, the paddock microphone has picked up Ellis giving instructions to his riders.
The common theme among every one of the sessions is Ellis has a huge problem with the idea of being any further than 2 wide on the turns. And a lot of those times he has horses with no post on the inner half of the field and come from no closer than mid pack.
Sometimes, that's just not realistic. A rider with far more years in the game might just go ahead and let the horse do their best running, if he thinks the trainers instructions won't work. Talamo probably won't try that yet, working for a client who has helped him succeed first season on a new circuit.
I think if she was 3-4 wide thru out, I had a better shot of cashing my win ticket. So I was biting my bottom lip thruout that final 1/2 mile too.
The warning is out: know this everytime we bet on an Ellis trainee.

We'll get'em again
Frankel is another that hates when his riders go wide.
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:22 PM
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Alright people. History repeats itself. Talamo is in a funk, lay off him. I know the #1 is off a big lay-off, but Stute is 25% at that and the works are sharp. What is Gomez doing on a horse that has been at New Mexico and Arizona? Ron Ellis is hot and the 8 looks the best. 1-2-8 ex and tri box.
I think Talamo's funk is suddenly over. Two Grade 1's today.
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:10 PM
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I don't know if I trust Talamo on Nashoba's Key tommorow anymore.
seems like he was able to handle the pressure. won not only on NK but also on Bilo. Two GR1's ont he same card.
the kid is good.
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:38 PM
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Real good, and Bilo really had no business winning
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:59 AM
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Frogman strikes again

Just read in todays DRF (hard copy) that Bianconne was fined $1500 for not notifying the stewards that Lady of Venice was racing with Lasix.


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Old 07-10-2007, 12:10 PM
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I wonder if Lasix masks cobra venom
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:28 PM
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i'm starting to really dislike all the shenanigans with this guy.
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