Let's go Yankees

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Phils are only hitting home runs with nobody on (Tex-Style.) That's what we did against them in the last series. This is a choke by the Phils. Lidge didn't throw those bad pitches in the last series. Should of made them hit that slider. Was he waving off that pitch? Burnett coming up witch in game #2 started your problems. Hamels giving it up in game #3 hurt. Ya didn't hit Pettite like ya should. Ya choked with 2 men on n' no outs in game #4. Lidge doesn't go down with his best pitch in the 9th of game 4. Too much chokin' , and poor decision making. Where TF did this come from? That's gunna be huge next year. They won't be as intimidating in the post. They can still win next year, but I don't think other teams are gunna choke for them as much as they have (i.e. a good closer like Street isn't gunna choke now against you.) Face it, the Philly offense choked when faced with an equally good offense. They haven't had to give up that edge like that. They didn't respond. Burnett put them asleep, and they've been laying ever since. Thought they'd play better. They're asleep. Yanks are about to prove that if ya keep buying enough whores, you'll finally buy a good fk. There's been a lot of different versions of this Philly team this year. Other than Lee's game 1, this is the version the Dodgers beat 4 out of 7 in the regular season. Other than Burnett, I don't think it was the Yankees pitching that gave you the choking bug. Phils enjoy being intimidating bullies, and they just weren't comfortable playing another bunch of bullies. They didn't like it. Were out of their comfort zone. Quickly Find the thug bully in ya, or die. Better find it, or next year you will be in trouble, too.

[gales0678]

jimmy rollins had it right , the only problem was he got the teams wrong , series over tonight in 5 to the bronx bombers

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Phils are only hitting home runs with nobody on (Tex-Style.) That's what we did against them in the last series. This is a choke by the Phils. Lidge didn't throw those bad pitches in the last series. Should of made them hit that slider. Was he waving off that pitch? Burnett coming up witch in game #2 started your problems. Hamels giving it up in game #3 hurt. Ya didn't hit Pettite like ya should. Ya choked with 2 men on n' no outs in game #4. Lidge doesn't go down with his best pitch in the 9th of game 4. Too much chokin' , and poor decision making. Where TF did this come from? That's gunna be huge next year. They won't be as intimidating in the post. They can still win next year, but I don't think other teams are gunna choke for them as much as they have (i.e. a good closer like Street isn't gunna choke now against you.) Face it, the Philly offense choked when faced with an equally good offense. They haven't had to give up that edge like that. They didn't respond. Burnett put them asleep, and they've been laying ever since. Thought they'd play better. They're asleep. Yanks are about to prove that if ya keep buying enough whores, you'll finally buy a good fk. There's been a lot of different versions of this Philly team this year. Other than Lee's game 1, this is the version the Dodgers beat 4 out of 7 in the regular season. Other than Burnett, I don't think it was the Yankees pitching that gave you the choking bug. Phils enjoy being intimidating bullies, and they just weren't comfortable playing another bunch of bullies. They didn't like it. Were out of their comfort zone. Quickly Find the thug bully in ya, or die. Better find it, or next year you will be in trouble, too.

Lidge is the biggest choker in baseball and Charlie puts him out there tied 4-4 in the most critical part of the whole World Series so far? I was going ****ing nuts. First, I couldnt believe Feliz actually played so well and tied the game up.. but then when they showed lidge in the bullpen I told my friend, Well I guess Charlie doesnt want to win the game. I KNEW he was going to blow it. Once Damon stole 2nd and 3rd you could see all the color drain out of Lidge. WE WERE STILL TIED AT THAT POINT! WHY THE HELL DIDNT MANUEL TAKE LIDGE OUT AND GET THAT ONE MORE FREAKING OUT!

I blame this loss on Charlie... not on Lidge cause everyone already knew that he sucks at his job.

We're not really choking SCUDS, other than Howard though I wouldnt call it a choke I'd call it a funk. He's already proved he's not a choker. Utley has been great, so has Werth and somehow Feliz. Rollins, Victorino, Ruiz are playing as they always play, no choking there. We are really missing Howard and Ibanez bats.. those are the only guys you can say choke about.

Our two worse players for the whole year have been the two worse players in the WS (Hamels and Lidge). There's some gay ass loyalty **** that keeps those two chokers in the baseball games for some reason I dont understand. Hamels has SUCKED all year and in the playoffs, and we all know what Lidge is made of. For some reason they still get to play because of last year.. well last year was last year and its two thousand and ****ing nine now! Happ deserved to start over Hamels. Lee deserved to be out there three times (well if possible). Lidge deserved to watch the world series from his couch. I really blame this **** on Charlie Manuel.

This series is over. I'm done with this mush **** so I'm going to make some predictions. Phillies could very easily win game 5 and 6 with Lee and Martinez pitching, but we cant win game 7 with Sissy Cole Hamels. If it somehow gets to a game 7 (it probably wont, yankee's have the momentum) Manuel needs to grow a sack and sit Cole and go with Happ.

So the god damn yankees will be the world champs. Gotta give A-fraud some credit, he's been playing well in Philadelphia. I would rather have the Giants beat the Eagles 1000 - 0 and the Phillies win but **** just doesnt work out like that.

So yeah, I'm not really in a good mood. Its one thing if we just had been completely out played last night. But we deserved a chance at that win and it just wasnt going to be possible with Lidge in the game.

And gales, you can still go suck a dick.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Lidge is the biggest choker in baseball and Charlie puts him out there tied 4-4 in the most critical part of the whole World Series so far? I was going ****ing nuts. First, I couldnt believe Feliz actually played so well and tied the game up.. but then when they showed lidge in the bullpen I told my friend, Well I guess Charlie doesnt want to win the game. I KNEW he was going to blow it. Once Damon stole 2nd and 3rd you could see all the color drain out of Lidge. WE WERE STILL TIED AT THAT POINT! WHY THE HELL DIDNT MANUEL TAKE LIDGE OUT AND GET THAT ONE MORE FREAKING OUT!

I blame this loss on Charlie... not on Lidge cause everyone already knew that he sucks at his job.

We're not really choking SCUDS, other than Howard though I wouldnt call it a choke I'd call it a funk. He's already proved he's not a choker. Utley has been great, so has Werth and somehow Feliz. Rollins, Victorino, Ruiz are playing as they always play, no choking there. We are really missing Howard and Ibanez bats.. those are the only guys you can say choke about.

Our two worse players for the whole year have been the two worse players in the WS (Hamels and Lidge). There's some gay ass loyalty **** that keeps those two chokers in the baseball games for some reason I dont understand. Hamels has SUCKED all year and in the playoffs, and we all know what Lidge is made of. For some reason they still get to play because of last year.. well last year was last year and its two thousand and ****ing nine now! Happ deserved to start over Hamels. Lee deserved to be out there three times (well if possible). Lidge deserved to watch the world series from his couch. I really blame this **** on Charlie Manuel.

This series is over. I'm done with this mush **** so I'm going to make some predictions. Phillies could very easily win game 5 and 6 with Lee and Martinez pitching, but we cant win game 7 with Sissy Cole Hamels. If it somehow gets to a game 7 (it probably wont, yankee's have the momentum) Manuel needs to grow a sack and sit Cole and go with Happ.

So the god damn yankees will be the world champs. Gotta give A-fraud some credit, he's been playing well in Philadelphia. I would rather have the Giants beat the Eagles 1000 - 0 and the Phillies win but **** just doesnt work out like that.

So yeah, I'm not really in a good mood. Its one thing if we just had been completely out played last night. But we deserved a chance at that win and it just wasnt going to be possible with Lidge in the game.

And gales, you can still go suck a dick.

good afternoon to you to sunshine

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

good afternoon to you to sunshine

lol

you have to admit.. Lidge had no business being in that game.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

lol

you have to admit.. Lidge had no business being in that game.

Manuel lost that game by starting Blanton instead of Lee. I don't give a damn if he's never started on three days' rest, he is FAR AND AWAY your best pitcher, and is now unavailable for the rest of the series even if they get by tonight. I know Blanton wasn't terrible and big surprise, Lidge is a choker, but if Lee starts last night I bet it's 2-2, and then you can bring Lee back for Game 7 instead of having to pitch Hole Camels.

One thing I'll say about Girardi, and I've said plenty of negative things, he beats Manuel in one area, and that's his willingness to adjust. Manuel set his rotation in stone before the series, Girardi didn't, and it's the difference in the series.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Manuel lost that game by starting Blanton instead of Lee. I don't give a damn if he's never started on three days' rest, he is FAR AND AWAY your best pitcher, and is now unavailable for the rest of the series even if they get by tonight. I know Blanton wasn't terrible and big surprise, Lidge is a choker, but if Lee starts last night I bet it's 2-2, and then you can bring Lee back for Game 7 instead of having to pitch Hole Camels.

One thing I'll say about Girardi, and I've said plenty of negative things, he beats Manuel in one area, and that's his willingness to adjust. Manuel set his rotation in stone before the series, Girardi didn't, and it's the difference in the series.

I 100000000000% agree with this. I dont know if I said it on here, but ever since we lost game 2 I've been telling anyone who can stand me that we NEED to pitch Lee game 4 so if there is a 7 he can go. He said he was ready to go. I like Blanton and I could have handled Blanton starting in Hamels spot but we NEEDED to be able to get 3 wins from Lee..

There is no way the Phils win this series.. eventhough I really could see it going 7 games still if Lee wins tonite.. you know Pedro will be tough in game 6.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Manuel lost that game by starting Blanton instead of Lee. I don't give a damn if he's never started on three days' rest, he is FAR AND AWAY your best pitcher, and is now unavailable for the rest of the series even if they get by tonight. I know Blanton wasn't terrible and big surprise, Lidge is a choker, but if Lee starts last night I bet it's 2-2, and then you can bring Lee back for Game 7 instead of having to pitch Hole Camels.

One thing I'll say about Girardi, and I've said plenty of negative things, he beats Manuel in one area, and that's his willingness to adjust. Manuel set his rotation in stone before the series, Girardi didn't, and it's the difference in the series.

Girardi doesn't have the options that Manuel has. Chad Gaudin....come on give me a break. I am petrified about having to start Pettite on 3 days rest if needed. Let's face it, there really is/was no decision that had to be made. They just don't have the depth at starter that the Phills have. That being said, I agree that Lee should have started last night.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Girardi doesn't have the options that Manuel has. Chad Gaudin....come on give me a break. I am petrified about having to start Pettite on 3 days rest if needed. Let's face it, there really is/was no decision that had to be made. They just don't have the depth at starter that the Phills have. That being said, I agree that Lee should have started last night.

Joe Blanton is that much better than Chad Gaudin? Regardless, depth is meaningless when you're down 2-1 and you won't pitch your freaking Cy Young winner on three days' rest. It's not basketball where you can yank guys and bring them back in every few minutes. Sorry, not throwing Lee in that spot is inexcusable in my book, especially once the Yankees went to CC.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Joe Blanton is that much better than Chad Gaudin? Regardless, depth is meaningless when you're down 2-1 and you won't pitch your freaking Cy Young winner on three days' rest. It's not basketball where you can yank guys and bring them back in every few minutes. Sorry, not throwing Lee in that spot is inexcusable in my book, especially once the Yankees went to CC.

The only way it would be okay to not pitch Lee in game 4 is if the Phillies had a 3-0 or maybe even 2-1 lead.

But then again I also would have pitched Blanton or Happ instead of Hamels and left Lidge off the roster if I was the manager..

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Joe Blanton is that much better than Chad Gaudin? Regardless, depth is meaningless when you're down 2-1 and you won't pitch your freaking Cy Young winner on three days' rest. It's not basketball where you can yank guys and bring them back in every few minutes. Sorry, not throwing Lee in that spot is inexcusable in my book, especially once the Yankees went to CC.

Joey, I'm not arguing with you over who Manuel started. My point is more about the willingness of Girardi to adjust his rotation. I'm just saying he doesn't have a hell of a whole lot of options. He has his top 3 (which is pretty damn good), his #4 guy is now back to his old role and the you Gaudin who was accquired at the end for a 5th starter/long relief. He doesn't have a guy like Blanton, Happ or even Brett Myers sitting in is bullpen.

[Gander]

Doesnt really matter who pitches for the Phillies...they just havent scored enough runs. I think their pitching has held up fine (minus Lidge), its their offense that isnt doing what it needs to do to beat a team that is better than they are. Ryan Howard needed to have some big hits and RBI for them to have a realistic shot. He hasnt had any and they are down 3-1, about to lose this thing. Cliff Lee is amazing but the guy cant pitch every night and its very unrealistic to think he could have made 3 starts in this series against such a great team and won them all. Sooner or later, the Yankees will figure out what they need to do and beat him. Probably tonight.

Cole Hamels is a real douche and shouldnt be allowed to sit in that dugout.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Gander

Doesnt really matter who pitches for the Phillies...they just havent scored enough runs. I think their pitching has held up fine (minus Lidge), its their offense that isnt doing what it needs to do to beat a team that is better than they are. Ryan Howard needed to have some big hits and RBI for them to have a realistic shot. He hasnt had any and they are down 3-1, about to lose this thing. Cliff Lee is amazing but the guy cant pitch every night and its very unrealistic to think he could have made 3 starts in this series against such a great team and won them all. Sooner or later, the Yankees will figure out what they need to do and beat him. Probably tonight.

Cole Hamels is a real douche and shouldnt be allowed to sit in that dugout.

i agree timmy , more and more if you look at this philly team you wonder how they got this far, it's been a lot of guts and other teams choking just like scuds talked about (the dodgers and rockies)

bottom line the yankees have rivera and no one else does , unless lee throws a big time game again tonight the phillies are going to lose as the bullpen will fail

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i agree timmy , more and more if you look at this philly team you wonder how they got this far, it's been a lot of guts and other teams choking just like scuds talked about (the dodgers and rockies)

bottom line the yankees have rivera and no one else does , unless lee throws a big time game again tonight the phillies are going to lose as the bullpen will fail

your first part of the second sentence is spot on but your first sentence is as far off as anything could possibly be far off.

First off.. we are the defending World Champions. You kinda have to be a good baseball team to win the World Series. If you want to believe they only won because every other team in baseball choked.. then whatever.

Phillies bats are cold right now. Consider yourself lucky maybe? The most powerful offense in baseball.. blew 18 saves and still was NEVER even 2nd place in their division. eliminate those saves and the Phillies are the best team in baseball by far win wise.

Are bullpen is shaky.. though its really one guy who is shaky... Durbin, Eyre, Chan Ho Park, Madson (as an 8th inning guy not a closer) have had very nice years. Lidge just flat out sucks at pitching baseballs.

You really dont know anything about baseball do you? Defending World champs and back to back NL pennant winners only did it because other teams choke? I cant tell you how much it pisses me off when you say crap like that. I hope we beat your team 25-0 tonite. I know we are going to lose the series but I hope we just beat the crap outta you guys tonite.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

your first part of the second sentence is spot on but your first sentence is as far off as anything could possibly be far off.

First off.. we are the defending World Champions. You kinda have to be a good baseball team to win the World Series. If you want to believe they only won because every other team in baseball choked.. then whatever.

Phillies bats are cold right now. Consider yourself lucky maybe? The most powerful offense in baseball.. blew 18 saves and still was NEVER even 2nd place in their division. eliminate those saves and the Phillies are the best team in baseball by far win wise.

Are bullpen is shaky.. though its really one guy who is shaky... Durbin, Eyre, Chan Ho Park, Madson (as an 8th inning guy not a closer) have had very nice years. Lidge just flat out sucks at pitching baseballs.

You really dont know anything about baseball do you? Defending World champs and back to back NL pennant winners only did it because other teams choke? I cant tell you how much it pisses me off when you say crap like that. I hope we beat your team 25-0 tonite. I know we are going to lose the series but I hope we just beat the crap outta you guys tonite.

first off last year doesn't mean anything this year. your starting pitching was much better last year. if you put rivera on the rockies instead of street explain to me how you would have won against them this year .... you would have lost simple as that in the 1st round.... broxton gave away game 4 this year in the nlcs , rivera would not have , mentally the philies own the dodgers as posted here by someone who watches 162 la dodger games .....so who did the beat ? they beat the rockies closer 2 x in colorado , they beat a team that doesn't believe they can beat them ..... now the play a team that punches back and has a closer who can finish and where are they ....down 3-1


take nothing away from last year's philly team but this team is not as good , the NL east stunk this year , the mets packed it in in June , the braves and marlins were too young to compete , they caught a team that should have beat them but couldn't finish games and the beat a mentally fragile LA team who they dominate

[gales0678]

i'll say what you didn't say until today about you man manuel and his pitching decisions

i think girardi makes a mistake tonight by pitching burnett

i would have pitched gaudin tonight , save burnett for game 6 and pettite for game 7

this lineup is terrible know with melky out .... lee has to basically get 6 guys out .... gardiner , molina and burnett are all very weak against lee

burnett needs to be lights out tonight otherwise we go to game 6

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

first off last year doesn't mean anything this year. your starting pitching was much better last year. if you put rivera on the rockies instead of street explain to me how you would have won against them this year .... you would have lost simple as that in the 1st round.... broxton gave away game 4 this year in the nlcs , rivera would not have , mentally the philies own the dodgers as posted here by someone who watches 162 la dodger games .....so who did the beat ? they beat the rockies closer 2 x in colorado , they beat a team that doesn't believe they can beat them ..... now the play a team that punches back and has a closer who can finish and where are they ....down 3-1


take nothing away from last year's philly team but this team is not as good , the NL east stunk this year , the mets packed it in in June , the braves and marlins were too young to compete , they caught a team that should have beat them but couldn't finish games and the beat a mentally fragile LA team who they dominate

I talk crap on the Yankees cause I absolutely hate them. But I'll say stuff like cheater and A-fraud, but wont just make up stuff to make them look bad.

You are just making stuff up. Our starting pitching has been equal to last year minus Cole Hamels. Blanton is the same Blanton he was last year. Happ is a new guy who was BETTER than Myers last year. Pedro came in and did a WONDERFUL job. Cliff Lee.. well he's Cliff Lee. Jamie Moyer was the same last year.. gave up runs but won games because of the run support we gave him.

So Hamels is the only part of our starting pitching that has really suffered.

But we added a J.A Happ, Pedro Martinez and a Clifford Lee. That outweighs a Hamels breakdown.


And there is only one Mariano Rivera in the league. So to say "if Rivera was on the Rox or the Dodgers the PHils would have lost" is as much BULLSHIT as me saying if Rivera was a Philly we would be crushing NY right now.

Try to know what you are talking about before you talk. It may help your arguements. So far its turned out that the Yankee's are the best team in baseball and better than the Phillies.

But for the past 326 games the Phillies have been the best NL team hands freaking down.

Its funny how all the commentators on the planet said "wow its actually a WS featuring the best two teams" (not that the speaking heads really know anything) and you throw out this garbage.. come on now gales.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i'll say what you didn't say until today about you man manuel and his pitching decisions

i think girardi makes a mistake tonight by pitching burnett

i would have pitched gaudin tonight , save burnett for game 6 and pettite for game 7

this lineup is terrible know with melky out .... lee has to basically get 6 guys out .... gardiner , molina and burnett are all very weak against lee

burnett needs to be lights out tonight otherwise we go to game 6

Just because I didnt say something on here.. doesnt mean I didnt tell everyone and their freaking mom that Cliff Lee should be pitching game 4. And for all I know I may have even posted it on here.

And I DID post that if Lidge blows a save we will lose the series. He didnt blow a technical save but its was the same ****. I've said over and over and over I dont trust Lidge for a second, so STFU.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I talk crap on the Yankees cause I absolutely hate them. But I'll say stuff like cheater and A-fraud, but wont just make up stuff to make them look bad.

You are just making stuff up. Our starting pitching has been equal to last year minus Cole Hamels. Blanton is the same Blanton he was last year. Happ is a new guy who was BETTER than Myers last year. Pedro came in and did a WONDERFUL job. Cliff Lee.. well he's Cliff Lee. Jamie Moyer was the same last year.. gave up runs but won games because of the run support we gave him.

So Hamels is the only part of our starting pitching that has really suffered.

But we added a J.A Happ, Pedro Martinez and a Clifford Lee. That outweighs a Hamels breakdown.


And there is only one Mariano Rivera in the league. So to say "if Rivera was on the Rox or the Dodgers the PHils would have lost" is as much BULLSHIT as me saying if Rivera was a Philly we would be crushing NY right now.

Try to know what you are talking about before you talk. It may help your arguements. So far its turned out that the Yankee's are the best team in baseball and better than the Phillies.

But for the past 326 games the Phillies have been the best NL team hands freaking down.

Its funny how all the commentators on the planet said "wow its actually a WS featuring the best two teams" (not that the speaking heads really know anything) and you throw out this garbage.. come on now gales.

if happ is better than meyers why did he not start any games here in the WS?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

if happ is better than meyers why did he not start any games here in the WS?

I dont know maybe you should ask Charlie Manuel that question.

It's been very strange the roles he has put Blanton and Happ into.. Guess its just playoff baseball and ya got to do what you got to do..

I know the reason he put Happ in the pen is because Happ has pitched out of the pen before and Charlie was more comfortable with Happ in the penn then Pedro in there...

It didnt make a whole lot of sense to me to not start our most consistant starting pitcher (happ) in the playoffs. What he went 12-4 or something like that, had the lowest ERA, great placement.

But Cholly is Cholly and he makes the calls.

g/l tonite.. well not really but you know.