6/8 (BEL) 145th Belmont Stakes: Field at 14 as 'Tiz' passes

[rpncaine]

I think it will. My 73 yr old (slots playing) mom saw it and now she's betting on Rosie. Pretty horsie crowd will eat it up. Too bad cause I like him to hit the board at least.

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

I think it will. My 73 yr old (slots playing) mom saw it and now she's betting on Rosie. Pretty horsie crowd will eat it up. Too bad cause I like him to hit the board at least.

He might still have some value in exotics....but clearly will be a huge underlay in WPS pools.

[Kasept]

Govenor Charlie, Code West officially out...

[Danzig]

since winning cause didn't work, i'd have to think he's not doubtful, but is definite not to run.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Danzig

since winning cause didn't work, i'd have to think he's not doubtful, but is definite not to run.

He worked too...

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

He worked too...

But has been declared per Privman with Pletcher..

Golden Soul in...

[Kasept]

5/4: KENTUCKY DERBY -- CURRENT FIELD -- TUESDAY (4/30)

1. Orb (Shug McGaughey/Joel Rosario)
2. Verrazano (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
3. Goldencents (Doug O’Neill/Kevin Krigger)
4. Java’s War (Ken McPeek/Julian Leparoux)
5. Overanalyze (Todd Pletcher/Rafael Bejarano)
6. Revolutionary (Todd Pletcher/Calvin Borel)
7. Lines of Battle (Aidan O’Brien/Ryan Moore)
8. Vyjack (Rudy Rodriguez/Garrett Gomez)
9. Will Take Charge (D. Wayne Lukas/Jon Court)
10. Itsmyluckyday (Eddie Plesa Jr./Elvis Trujillo)
11. Black Onyx (Kelly Breen/Joe Bravo)
12. Palace Malice (Todd Pletcher/Mike Smith)
13. Normandy Invasion (Chad Brown/Javier Castellano)
14. Frac Daddy (Ken McPeek/V. Lebron)
15. Mylute (Tom Amoss/Rosie Napravnik)
16. Oxbow (D. Wayne Lukas/Gary Stevens)
17. Falling Sky (John Terranova/Luis Saez)
18. Charming Kitten (Todd Pletcher/Edgar Prado)
19. Golden Soul (Dallas Stewart/BJ Hernandez)
20. Giant Finish (Tony Dutrow/TBA)
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21. Fear the Kitten (Mike Maker/Alan Garcia)
22. Carving (Baffert/TBA)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

He worked too...

spoke too soon on him. thanks.
thought they'd shown he galloped, but i guess he breezed.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Govenor Charlie, Code West officially out...

Rocktard must be devestated. The GOAT without a Derby starter? An APB is out to check all bridges.

[TouchOfGrey]

Kevin Krigger in the NY Times:

History Aside, Jockey Is Just Out to Win

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

Kevin Krigger in the NY Times:

History Aside, Jockey Is Just Out to Win

Met him and his father last night at the Allday/Old Friends fundraiser. Very cool kid who seems to be utterly confident and comfortable coming in to this.

[Alabama Stakes]

Krigger was cool when he was at suffolk. Even listened to instructions from railbirds like me.

Is it safe to say Revolutionary will be the Derby favorite ?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Krigger was cool when he was at suffolk. Even listened to instructions from railbirds like me.Is it safe to say Revolutionary will be the Derby favorite ?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

Rocktard must be devestated. The GOAT without a Derby starter? An APB is out to check all bridges.

and baffert seemed about as loaded as tap not long ago.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Krigger was cool when he was at suffolk. Even listened to instructions from railbirds like me.

Is it safe to say Revolutionary will be the Derby favorite ?

Do you really think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence believes for a second that Krigger paid any attention to anything you yelled at him from the rail let alone took instructions from you as to how he was to ride a horse?

[SundayStar]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Krigger was cool when he was at suffolk. Even listened to instructions from railbirds like me.

Is it safe to say Revolutionary will be the Derby favorite ?

he's my favorite, but i don't have any money so no influence there. i think he wins the derby and preakness and loses the belmont.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by pointman

Do you really think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence believes for a second that Krigger paid any attention to anything you yelled at him from the rail let alone took instructions from you as to how he was to ride a horse?

why don't you ask him ? do you think when he arrived in east boston he knew more about the suffolk turf course than me ? do you think he was on the rail every saturday after they scraped it ? or any of the other jockeys to whom I give strategic advice. Not all jocks can read the form, and their agents aren't much better. I have already told Calvin to have Rev. up and into the race. He will be in front of more than are in front
of him into the first turn. He will hit the front at the 3/16 pole. That's the plan.

I would bet that if Mr. Byk was advising some of these jocks they would have a much better idea on how to approach the race. He probably could make some money as an advisor. I would bet that Mr. Serling must have advised Mig in the past after some of the well timed winners he rode.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by pointman

Do you really think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence believes for a second that Krigger paid any attention to anything you yelled at him from the rail let alone took instructions from you as to how he was to ride a horse?

don't be so dismissive. i once yelled at an outfielder to "catch the damn ball!" and he did it.

alabama believes that jockeys take notes from random ninnies in the crowd. and i believe i helped orel hirscheiser close out the mets in the 88 nlcs.

[Kasept]

It's a NO from Tiz a Minister's team. 19 in Derby... for now.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

why don't you ask him ? or any of the other jockeys to whom I give strategic advice. Not all jocks can read the form, and their agents aren't much better. I have already told Calvin to have Rev. up and into the race. He will be in front of more than are in front of him into the first turn. He will hit the front at the 3/16 pole. That's the plan.

What other jocks have you given strategic advice to? I find it hard to believe from your posts that you know how to read a form.

So now you have predicted that Revolutionary will win the triple crown and that he is going to change his style in the Derby and be in the first half of the field by the first turn which is entirely different then the deep closer that he has been in the past. All this without even consideration to the draw.

If that isn't far fetched enough, you want people to believe that it is because you instructed Borel to do that? It doesn't matter what the owner, trainer and Borel think, Borel is going to use your plan? Could you be a bigger tool?

It is hard to believe that the weight that you have put on this poor horse can be overcome by even the greatest of throughbreds.