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It appears to this untrained eye that Weed Wacker is the re-incarnation of Derek Anderson (who also wore number 3!!), an arm that at times makes you say wow, but in the end dumber than a bag of hammers. He throws behind receivers half the time, and the other half of his perfect throws the receivers drop half of them. It's not a good combination for winning. They really know how to lose though. Very good at it.

AS you stated earlier, Phil Dawson is simply superb at kicking field goals, best in the league, so there's that.

I did not see the game as per usual.

But they do show good signs here and there.The only problem is the good signs were bad signs in prior games when other signs were good.Today those former good signs were bad signs.

Maybe that's some form of strange progress; perhaps in the next 3 years they will get everyone moving in the same direction.



Francona seems like a nice guy.I think there are more important faces that the team needs...that being players.Competent players.Signing a guy who no one else wanted and who had no spring training....this must stop.

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin

I did not see the game as per usual.

But they do show good signs here and there.The only problem is the good signs were bad signs in prior games when other signs were good.Today those former good signs were bad signs.

Maybe that's some form of strange progress; perhaps in the next 3 years they will get everyone moving in the same direction.



Francona seems like a nice guy.I think there are more important faces that the team needs...that being players.Competent players.Signing a guy who no one else wanted and who had no spring training....this must stop.

One good sign today is that instead of focusing on stopping the run or the pass, they decided to focus on neither so they were able to stop nothing. To be fair their best run defender, Jackson was hurt most of the game and their best pass defender, Haden has missed 4 straight games. That really helps nothing. They are competetive for chunks of games but never for a whole game, I guess that's part of being the youngest team in the NFL. You would think they can compete with Cincy next week, but I think they'll figure out a way to lose. They do get Haden back which should help pass defense.

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Tribe management was actually counting on Sizeless to fill the outfield gap prior to the 2012 season. Now that's saying something as to the front office. I used to defend them somewhat. Poor Grady is now a full body concussion. In the end I really don't care about Francona. No one could have won 70 games with the starting pitchers they threw out there this year.

The Browns' average age is 15.7.That might be the problem.

I agree, Alomar would have been the better choice.



Sizeless' signing....only the Indians front office is capable of doing the things they do.They fell for Sizeless' claim that his heart was still here. "I love the Tribe.After all,I took more money to come back."

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The Cavs front office is trying to join the Tribe and Browns. they drafted a college bench player with the number 3 pick overall then traded up to draft the tall white guy Zeller from North Carolina. I think they just were confused and wanted another white guy they could call "Big Z". They had that for about 10 years before I guess so why not do it again. Urban Saban Meyer is just creepy.

Gosh, that's very good.I never made that Z connection.


What interests me,too, is your Meyer reference.As you well know, over the recent years the NC's have been won by teams having hc's born and fb schooled in Ohio or at the very least strongly fb schooled in Ohio though not born here.

Meyer has won two NC's, yet he doesn't feel right.

I have lost a whole bunch of interest in sports even to the point I do not care what Ohio State does.It was very much upsetting to me that they dumped Luke Fickell, who took on a horrendous situation, and threw money at Meyer.Won't go into detail on this....just made me turn in my Ohio State leaves.


He is going to be trouble.

That may sound ridiculous, but that's what I think.

Mr. Rogers is not handling his ability to go through adversity( great football term, but so overused) sa hot.


He is getting very snarky with the media and using the "fucl<" word.

Livingston,the Cleveland writer, mentioned.... "There is soft, softer,Charmin soft and then there's Schurmur soft."

A ten pier if I ever saw one.

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin

Mr. Rogers is not handling his ability to go through adversity( great football term, but so overused) sa hot.


He is getting very snarky with the media and using the "fucl<" word.

Livingston,the Cleveland writer, mentioned.... "There is soft, softer,Charmin soft and then there's Schurmur soft."

A ten pier if I ever saw one.

That's pretty funny.....I found this on the Syracuse bench player drafted number 3 overall and it seems as if the Cavs are all set to follow on the fine seasons of the Tribe and Brownies...

•The elephant in the room is Dion Waiters. Things have not gotten much better on the Waiters front after he came into the Summer League out of shape and shot only 30%. It is not time to panic and declare Waiters a bust or a future star in the making, but he needs to improve his play sooner than later if he wants to justify where he was selected. Dion Waiters finished the night with 2 points on 1-7 shooting, 3 assists and 4 turnovers. His jump shot looks broken. I am fine with him taking jumpers in the preseason if the intention is to tweak his shot and improve from a longer range. However, where Waiters will excel is in splitting double-teams and driving into the lane. Hopefully Waiters plays to his strengths instead of settling for lazy jump shots.


Now that seems like a guy who deserves to wear "Cleveland" laundary!

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin

I have lost a whole bunch of interest in sports even to the point I do not care what Ohio State does.

For the most part sports is comic relief for me. This is especially true following Cleveland sports. The hilarity of these billionaires holding cities hostage so they get their government welfare combined with highly paid athletes messing stuff up to the nth degree gives it all a train wreck feel that I can't help but continue to follow. Baseball is still by far the best. I think in regards to that it's by far the hardest to script. And I can still enjoy baseball postseason much more than the others. Tiggers/A's last night, Reds/Giants today still fantastic stuff.

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

That's pretty funny.....I found this on the Syracuse bench player drafted number 3 overall and it seems as if the Cavs are all set to follow on the fine seasons of the Tribe and Brownies...

•The elephant in the room is Dion Waiters. Things have not gotten much better on the Waiters front after he came into the Summer League out of shape and shot only 30%. It is not time to panic and declare Waiters a bust or a future star in the making, but he needs to improve his play sooner than later if he wants to justify where he was selected. Dion Waiters finished the night with 2 points on 1-7 shooting, 3 assists and 4 turnovers. His jump shot looks broken. I am fine with him taking jumpers in the preseason if the intention is to tweak his shot and improve from a longer range. However, where Waiters will excel is in splitting double-teams and driving into the lane. Hopefully Waiters plays to his strengths instead of settling for lazy jump shots.


Now that seems like a guy who deserves to wear "Cleveland" laundary!

So reassuring.

Maybe they can go 35 and 47 this year.That should be enough to get in that privileged group of NBA play off teams.

Of course, I am not privy to Stern's script.


Say, more on what you saw of Weeden.He's that bad on accuracy? You think he's another .DA.?

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

For the most part sports is comic relief for me. This is especially true following Cleveland sports. The hilarity of these billionaires holding cities hostage so they get their government welfare combined with highly paid athletes messing stuff up to the nth degree gives it all a train wreck feel that I can't help but continue to follow. Baseball is still by far the best. I think in regards to that it's by far the hardest to script. And I can still enjoy baseball postseason much more than the others. Tiggers/A's last night, Reds/Giants today still fantastic stuff.

It's all become worse than government intervention and a lot more obvious. Yet it still goes on.

I can't berate anyone who likes watching it all, just had enough myself.

I make my own fantasy league in my noodle.Cleveland always wins .Fickel still coaches Ohio State and will go on to win 12 consecutive NC's.



voll 'em an' voll 'em!!

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin

So reassuring.

Maybe they can go 35 and 47 this year.That should be enough to get in that privileged group of NBA play off teams.

Of course, I am not privy to Stern's script.


Say, more on what you saw of Weeden.He's that bad on accuracy? You think he's another .DA.?

He can throw. I think the big int was largely Mr Rogers fault as it's 3rd and 1, you traded up to draft this Richardson. In all honesty the kid actually does look really good. He should get minimum 25 carries a game I think. So you pull him out of the game and go empty backfield. You're up 17-10, the play is covered and Weeden throws about 10 yards behind the secondary receiver...interception. I didn't really watch much of the 2nd half. To me, he looks like a strong armed guy with limited intelligence, just hearing him interviewed and stuff. I think that was DAs downfall, just not smart enough to do it. Not that Brees, Manning, Brady etc are mensa members but they are very football smart listening to them. I hope I'm wrong about Weeden. The defensive backfield is embarrassing. The refs were very kind, they interfere on every single play except of course on the ones where the guy is 15 yards wide open and they called less than half of them. I stumbled through the rest of the first half and after that decided to pass on the 2nd...I'd seen more than enough.

He may not be as bad as DA accuracy wise, and it seems his misses are all throwing behind receivers so perhaps that's correctable with time. Of course he's already 29. I prefer him to little Colt I guess. And of course their alleged number 1 receiver, Little, couldn't catch venereal disease in a whore house which doesn't help either.

Thanks for the rundown.


It wasn't pretty ,but you can't make a swan from a water buffalo.The team just seems , sounds, kind of rudderless.Again we seem to have another coordinator promoted to his level of incompetency....i.e, The Peter Principle.


Just think back to 1999.Talented front office people have been hired, not the two baboons either(Policy and the GM).All those great draft choices for two years and throw in all of Ditka's team picks for Ricky What'sHisName.






But no.

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This is one the Brownies should have a chance. Joe Haden is back today, but I thought when they played Buffalo they had a chance and the put forth their worst performance. So in the end they'll figure out how to lose it. Mr Rogers will ensure it I believe. It always cracks me up watching the Tiggers in post season and seeing that Doug Fister who they picked up at the trade deadline for a bag of rocks pitch outstanding game after outstanding game in the playoffs, and yet we still have Obaldo!! It's very special. I remember going on Cleveland sporty threads and not armchair qb'ing stating how the pitcher the Tiggers got with no fanfare at all was far superior to the one we got the second the trades went down and they all laughed at me like I was insane almost. (I always like to redboard my analysis of those trades as it's rare that I am ever so right!!)

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Well, 10 point lead with 8 minutes left. Time to see what Mr Rogers can scheme up to blow this one!!

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BROWNS WIN, BROWNS WIN!!! It wasn't really that exciting, they dominated the 2nd half, completely. They'll have a shot to win next week too.

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

BROWNS WIN, BROWNS WIN!!! It wasn't really that exciting, they dominated the 2nd half, completely. They'll have a shot to win next week too.

That don't sound right.

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin

That don't sound right.

You know what else doesn't sound right?? I just witnessed There's Jhonny make a spectacular defensive play at shortstop less than a minute ago keeping it 0-0 in the 7th!!

Oh my GOD!!!!