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[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.
Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

Who ever said anything about whether or not Nixon knew anything? YOU made the claim that "we never wanted or had any influence in the Congo" which is WRONG. Quit spinning and just admit that you are an ignorant uninformed fool.

Shall i get to the idi amin part?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67267.htm

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... he didn't even see the P.S. on my last post ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... oh ... oh ... oh ... I gotta take a break ... this is killing me ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... he didn't even see the P.S. on my last post ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... oh ... oh ... oh ... I gotta take a break ... this is killing me ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

Spin, spin spin. Sorry pal- Im not going to let you off the hook. You are a fool and you know it.

"Congo? WE never had any interest or influence there ever"- quote by brooklynite fool.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e6/67267.htm

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... he's not gonna let me off the hook ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... he's flopping in a vat of chicken fat with his Dumber friend ...

... and he's not gonna let me off the hook ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... !!!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... he's not gonna let me off the hook ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ...

... he's flopping in a vat of chicken fat with his Dumber friend ...

... and he's not gonna let me off the hook ...

Bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... bwahahahahahaha ... !!!

Typical...childish ranting. Some "bold" guy you are. Cant face the issues so you get into sophmoric taunts.

Youve been outclassed.

Now, shall i further dissect your pathetic post or shall i take this as you crying "uncle"?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.

BAAAA HAAAA HHAAAAA HHAAAAA Liar or uninformed?

Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Shall i go here next?Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about here?
How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

Liar or uninformed? and please, stop doing immitations of your wife the first time you whipped it out.

Wow ... do you see this George? Do you see how all they can do is throw sand in the air?

This thread is about the Israelis mopping the floor with Dumber & Dumber's Pali pals in 2006 ...

... and he wants to talk about a Nixon memo about Mobutu written one month before Nixon was forced to resign in 1975 ... even after I humiliated him publicly over it.

Yeah ... we're really going to fall for that .. aren't we, George ... we're really going to be tricked by Koko & Loco throwing sand.

They couldn't possibly be dumber ... could they?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Wow ... do you see this George? Do you see how all they can do is throw sand in the air?

This thread is about the Israelis mopping the floor with Dumber & Dumber's Pali pals in 2006 ...

... and he wants to talk about a Nixon memo about Mobutu written one month before Nixon was forced to resign in 1975 ... even after I huniliated him publicly over it.

Yeah ... we're really going to fall for that .. aren't we, George ... we're really going to be tricked by Koko & Loco throwing sand.

They couldn't possibly be dumber ... could they?

Better spin but still really bad! Watch some more Rush, you need work old man.

This has nothing to do with Nixon or mobutu or anything. It has to do WITH YOU. YOU being a liar or uninformed.

I noticed that are scared of me dissecting the rest of the ill conceived post. Erase it...just erase it.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.
Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

Still unwilling to admit that you are either a liar or uninformed? Sorry pal, im not going away.

"hi, im bold brooklynite, i like talking about history and politics but i dont have a clue about anything unless i cut and paste it from another site"

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I notice you conveniently left out every country I mentioned ... where we backed a dictator against communist aggression ... then after we defeated communism ... we helped Taiwan, South Korea, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador become free democracies.

You did mention Nicaragua ... but to what end? We helped defeat the communists and it's now a free democracy ... did you prefer a different outcome ... and what would that outcome have been?

Congo? Are you serious? That was a Belgian colony which never even made it on our radar. We never had ... and never wanted ... any influence there.

Idi Amin? We always worked against him ... and now Uganda is an emerging democracy. Another successful strategy and outcome. What would you have preferred?

Pol Pot? He was a murderous communist whom we worked against ... but unfortunately we couldn't prevent from coming to power after the communists swept into South Vietnam ... after our Democrat Congress shamelessly abandoned our allies by completely cutting off our aid.

How about Iran? That was a case where numbskull Jimmuh abandoned a pro-western dictator ... the shah ... and handed the country over to the fanatical mullahs ... and the entire world has been paying a horrible price ever since. Doncha think that staying with the shah would have been better than the idiotic strategy of Jimmuh ... the worst president we've ever had?

And Vietnam? Another horrible mistake of not backing a pro-western Christian dictator ... Diem. Did I say not backing him? Hey .. the idiot Kennedy had him murdered! Again ... was not backing a pro-western dictator in South Vietnam a good idea?

Yes, my friend ... there are times when choosing the lesser of two evils yields beneficial results ... South Korea, Taiwan, The Phillipines, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador ... and other times when NOT backing a dictator leads to even worse results ... Vietnam, Iran.

You do see that now ... don't you?

perhaps we can get some more stirring commentary from "the grand master" on whether he is a LIAR or simply an UNINFORMED IDIOT.

Brooklynite fool seems to have made a FALSE claim and doesnt want to own up.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

perhaps we can get some more stirring commentary from "the grand master" on whether he is a LIAR or simply an UNINFORMED IDIOT.

Brooklynite fool seems to have made a FALSE claim and doesnt want to own up.

Brooklynite has a hard time answering questions and needs to wait until Rush or Sean Hannity get on the radio and give him his talking points for the day. He is a parrot that can't think for himself. He just repeats the same things over and over and doesn't address any issues. Sounds like our current President and the idiot President right before him.

[Independent George]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Brooklynite has a hard time answering questions and needs to wait until Rush or Sean Hannity get on the radio and give him his talking points for the day. He is a parrot that can't think for himself. He just repeats the same things over and over and doesn't address any issues. Sounds like our current President and the idiot President right before him.

Please.....if anyone is repeating the same things over and over, it's you and the other character.For umpteen posts you've called BB a liar and a moron...and THAT'S ALL YOU SAID. He answered your qestion and you persist on REPEATING the same thing over and over.

Move on..........(hey thats a good place for you- moveon.org; you'll probably find total agreement with what little you've had to say)

[Independent George]

[quote=Dixie Porter]

Originally Posted by Independent George

(except for Jimmy Carter who wouldn't even give the Shah of Iran a "pass" to get medical treatment in this country, when it was Iran...yes Iran...who was one of our strongest allies during the Vietnam war), QUOTE]

This SOB not only put the US into it's darkest era but was on the brink of doing things that even history and Reagan couldn't right.

The sight of this creep still makes me want to kill him.

Jimmy Carter......the inventor of 15% Inflation.
We'll be paying for his mistakes for generations.

[Downthestretch55]

[quote=Independent George]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Jimmy Carter......the inventor of 15% Inflation.
We'll be paying for his mistakes for generations.

Indep Geo,
Are you really accusing Jimmy Carter for bringing on the inflation?
If so, you need to do a bit of reading.
Wars are financed with debt.
Borrow at 1970 dollars..pay back with 1974 ones (depreciated by inflation).
Wasn't it Richard Nixon that said he had a "plan" to end the Viet Nam war and then perpetuated it for another four years?
Duh? Is this the debt payment that Jimmy Carter had to deal with?
Wait until you see the inflation caused by G W's adventures for his lost causes.
Afghanistan is lost. Iraq is a civil war. Also another soon-to-be-loss.

"Bring 'em on!"

You'd think the US would have learned a lesson from Somolia when we got our billion dollar military's ass kicked by Toyota driving homies firing thousand dollar rpg's.

Ain't war great?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Independent George

Please.....if anyone is repeating the same things over and over, it's you and the other character.For umpteen posts you've called BB a liar and a moron...and THAT'S ALL YOU SAID. He answered your qestion and you persist on REPEATING the same thing over and over.

Move on..........(hey thats a good place for you- moveon.org; you'll probably find total agreement with what little you've had to say)

Actually ive had a lot to say "independant George" and so has brooklynite fool. The problem is that the brooklynite fool doesnt have his facts straight and is unwilling to own up to it. He claims that the US never was involved in Congo and whitehouse papers say he is wrong.

I just want him to say whether he is uninformed or just a liar. A simple answer will do. At that point, i will go on choppping up the rest of his idiotic post. You can join him if you like but be prepared is all i ask.

[Independent George]

[quote=Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Independent George

Indep Geo,
Are you really accusing Jimmy Carter for bringing on the inflation?
If so, you need to do a bit of reading.
Wars are financed with debt.
Borrow at 1970 dollars..pay back with 1974 ones (depreciated by inflation).
Wasn't it Richard Nixon that said he had a "plan" to end the Viet Nam war and then perpetuated it for another four years?
Duh? Is this the debt payment that Jimmy Carter had to deal with?
Wait until you see the inflation caused by G W's adventures for his lost causes.
Afghanistan is lost. Iraq is a civil war. Also another soon-to-be-loss.

"Bring 'em on!"

You'd think the US would have learned a lesson from Somolia when we got our billion dollar military's ass kicked by Toyota driving homies firing thousand dollar rpg's.

Ain't war great?

Here we go, it's Nixon's fault that Jimmy Carter got to pay for the Vietnam War that Kennedy or Johnson initiated.
Afgahnistan is lost ??? What a news flash ! Does Kharzaid and/or the Taliban know that yet ??
Iraq COULD be another loss if it depended on the likes of you to fight it. In 1942, America had lost Pearl Harbor; the entire Phillipines; Wake Island. England had lost Singapore and Rommel was marching across Africa. YOU would have said...."the war is lost".
No, War aint great (I've been there; have you?); but Defeatism is much much worse.

[Independent George]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Actually ive had a lot to say "independant George" and so has brooklynite fool. The problem is that the brooklynite fool doesnt have his facts straight and is unwilling to own up to it. He claims that the US never was involved in Congo and whitehouse papers say he is wrong.

I just want him to say whether he is uninformed or just a liar. A simple answer will do. At that point, i will go on choppping up the rest of his idiotic post. You can join him if you like but be prepared is all i ask.

OOOOHHHHH, you got me scairt. Is that a threat ??

He answered your "whitehouse papers" comment, but he didn't answer it to your sarisfaction, which would be, "Yes, your correct." He aint gonna say that, so, move on .

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Independent George

OOOOHHHHH, you got me scairt. Is that a threat ??

He answered your "whitehouse papers" comment, but he didn't answer it to your sarisfaction, which would be, "Yes, your correct." He aint gonna say that, so, move on .

Not a threat at all. Dont be so paranoid. I meant "be prepared" as in "know your topic" unlike your brooklynite fool pal.

For the record he didnt answer anything. So i am doing to him what he does to others. I am not letting him "spin" out of an obvious incorrect statement. Actually, it would be "statements" plural because the whole silly post was completely inaccurate.

I will say that politics certainly makes strange bedfellows. its interesting who people are from site to site. Of course, from what i hear, you are the master of changing screen id's.

Oooops... Ive gotta Scooch!

[dalakhani]

[quote=Independent George]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Here we go, it's Nixon's fault that Jimmy Carter got to pay for the Vietnam War that Kennedy or Johnson initiated.
Afgahnistan is lost ??? What a news flash ! Does Kharzaid and/or the Taliban know that yet ??
Iraq COULD be another loss if it depended on the likes of you to fight it. In 1942, America had lost Pearl Harbor; the entire Phillipines; Wake Island. England had lost Singapore and Rommel was marching across Africa. YOU would have said...."the war is lost".
No, War aint great (I've been there; have you?); but Defeatism is much much worse.

Oh Oh...another moron that cant get their facts straight. Viet Nam was initiated during the Eisenhower administration.

Why does the internet bring out so many uninformed fools?

[Downthestretch55]

[quote=Independent George]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Here we go, it's Nixon's fault that Jimmy Carter got to pay for the Vietnam War that Kennedy or Johnson initiated.
Afgahnistan is lost ??? What a news flash ! Does Kharzaid and/or the Taliban know that yet ??
Iraq COULD be another loss if it depended on the likes of you to fight it. In 1942, America had lost Pearl Harbor; the entire Phillipines; Wake Island. England had lost Singapore and Rommel was marching across Africa. YOU would have said...."the war is lost".
No, War aint great (I've been there; have you?); but Defeatism is much much worse.

Indep Geo,
You really must do some reading.
1) Yes, Kennedy sent advisors, Johnson escalated Viet Nam. Nixon perpetuated it. Carpet bombed Hanoi, invaded Cambodia...geesh...read up.
It's not for me to inform you of history.
2) Current events: Osama Bin Laden has yet to be captured. Two districts closest to Kabul are again controlled by the Taliban. The opium crop is the biggest ever. And Kharzai can't leave his capital city to venture into his country...sounds like a victory to me!
3) Iraq is in a state of civil war. 80% of Iraquis want the US out. Seems to me that instead of creating fewer terrorists, current policies have created many more. Oh! right...we've found the wmd's right?