Let's go Yankees

[Gander]

Originally Posted by gales0678

maybe Francessa can start telling ramon how to ride over at the big a , he's been pretty horrible lately

Not as horrible as francessa's radio show is...every day!

[Antitrust32]

Big game tonite. And while I like our chances.. I dont like how the media is really picking the Phillies tonite. So we will probably lose.

Hope Pedro stays hot in that cold weather!!

just like last game, g/l but not really..

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Big game tonite. And while I like our chances.. I dont like how the media is really picking the Phillies tonite. So we will probably lose.

Hope Pedro stays hot in that cold weather!!

just like last game, g/l but not really..

the yanks adjusted well to lee 2nd time , i would think they would hit pedro better tonight but don't know if it will be eneough

[Gander]

Originally Posted by gales0678

the yanks adjusted well to lee 2nd time , i would think they would hit pedro better tonight but don't know if it will be eneough

Hey Gales, how disappointed would you be as a Yankee fan, if they dont get this title? Would this be worse than 04? Worse than not being able to beat the Marlins in 03?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Gander

Hey Gales, how disappointed would you be as a Yankee fan, if they dont get this title? Would this be worse than 04? Worse than not being able to beat the Marlins in 03?

'04 was bad but it was stil the ALCS and we still would have to win 4 more games against the Cardinals and we lost 2 games with our best player on the mound - rivera

'03 was tough to take but the way Beckett shut them down in game 6 you just tip your cap to him and say he beat you

this would be a bitter pill to swollow .... pedro is 38 , the phillies don't have much of a bullpen to speak of so if it doesn't happen tonight and then we lose a game 7 to a hamel/happ combo it would be tougher to take then either of the above

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

the yanks adjusted well to lee 2nd time , i would think they would hit pedro better tonight but don't know if it will be eneough

lee dominated game 5 until the 8th when his pitch count got to around 110. not dominate like he did in game 1.. but lee was very good. I expect the same from Pedro.. except for him more around 95 pitches.

Also we hit Pettite in game 3.. its Hamels that couldnt hold on to a 3 run lead. Pettite is Pedro's age going on very short rest. 3 days rest when he hasnt pitched lower than 5 days rest all year.

I think the "seeing the pitcher a 2nd time" goes in the Phils favor tonite.

If we make it til tomorrow its totally in the Yanks favor as Manuel will send out Crybaby Hamels.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

'04 was bad but it was stil the ALCS and we still would have to win 4 more games against the Cardinals and we lost 2 games with our best player on the mound - rivera

'03 was tough to take but the way Beckett shut them down in game 6 you just tip your cap to him and say he beat you

this would be a bitter pill to swollow .... pedro is 38 , the phillies don't have much of a bullpen to speak of so if it doesn't happen tonight and then we lose a game 7 to a hamel/happ combo it would be tougher to take then either of the above

I think if somehow the Phillies pull this off it will be even greater than last year. Last year was amazing because it has been my whole lifetime and I was finally able to celebrate something. Beating the Yanks in 7 would top that though. I just dont think that will happen. Lidge beating us was just the one thing we couldnt let happen this series and its already happened. Just think the yankees have this wrapped up.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

lee dominated game 5 until the 8th when his pitch count got to around 110. not dominate like he did in game 1.. but lee was very good. I expect the same from Pedro.. except for him more around 95 pitches.

Also we hit Pettite in game 3.. its Hamels that couldnt hold on to a 3 run lead. Pettite is Pedro's age going on very short rest. 3 days rest when he hasnt pitched lower than 5 days rest all year.

I think the "seeing the pitcher a 2nd time" goes in the Phils favor tonite.

If we make it til tomorrow its totally in the Yanks favor as Manuel will send out Crybaby Hamels.

how does it not help the yankees at least as much as the phillies , explain that one to me , most of the yankee hitters had not seen pedro in a long time and he is a much different pitcher now than 3/4 yrs ago

lee was not as dominate in game 5 as game 1 , there were better ab's by the yankees and more hits , more runs etc , they didn't touch him in game 1

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

how does it not help the yankees at least as much as the phillies , explain that one to me , most of the yankee hitters had not seen pedro in a long time and he is a much different pitcher now than 3/4 yrs ago

lee was not as dominate in game 5 as game 1 , there were better ab's by the yankees and more hits , more runs etc , they didn't touch him in game 1

i said how it helps the Phillies more. Pedro is on full rest and Pettite is on 3 days.. he hasnt pitched on 3 days since 2006. that is where it helps the Phills more and thats the only place it helps them more.

Not really anybody in history was as dominant as Lee was in game 1. so obviously he wasnt going to shut you out again (i know it wasnt a technical shut out but it was a pitching shut out as the 1 run was unearned).

Lee still pitched a very good game, and he knows how to get out of an inning when guys get on base. It was only the 8th when Lee got tired you guys really started hitting him.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i said how it helps the Phillies more. Pedro is on full rest and Pettite is on 3 days.. he hasnt pitched on 3 days since 2006. that is where it helps the Phills more and thats the only place it helps them more.

Not really anybody in history was as dominant as Lee was in game 1. so obviously he wasnt going to shut you out again (i know it wasnt a technical shut out but it was a pitching shut out as the 1 run was unearned).

Lee still pitched a very good game, and he knows how to get out of an inning when guys get on base. It was only the 8th when Lee got tired you guys really started hitting him.

pedro technically is not on full rest either tonight

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

pedro technically is not on full rest either tonight

yes he is. 5 days

he pitched thursday. had off fri, sat, sun, mon, tue. Full rest magee. its also a huge difference between pettite's 3 days. especially since both are old goats.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yes he is. 5 days

he pitched thursday. had off fri, sat, sun, mon, tue. Full rest magee. its also a huge difference between pettite's 3 days. especially since both are old goats.

look at tht gap he had between the end of the regular season and his playoff starts ...no way he is on ful rest

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

look at tht gap he had between the end of the regular season and his playoff starts ...no way he is on ful rest

come on now.. 5 days is full rest for any pitcher in MLB. so it would have to be two weeks for you to say full rest? dont be silly!

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

come on now.. 5 days is full rest for any pitcher in MLB. so it would have to be two weeks for you to say full rest? dont be silly!

he has started 2 games in the last month over 10 days apart, he didn't pitch in round 1 , there is no way he is on full rest

rest or no rest the yankee hitters will be able to get him out of the game earlier and it will come down to whose bullpen blows up the least tonight

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

he has started 2 games in the last month over 10 days apart, he didn't pitch in round 1 , there is no way he is on full rest

rest or no rest the yankee hitters will be able to get him out of the game earlier and it will come down to whose bullpen blows up the least tonight

you believe what you want to believe.. I mean you are betting Mine That Bird in the classic... But Pedro is definately on full rest and 5 days is a huge advantage over 3 days with these two old guys.

Pedro should be able to get 6 or 7 solid innings. I just hope Lidge doesnt go out there. I can't handle our bullpen blowing up again but i REALLY cant handle Lidge blowing up.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you believe what you want to believe.. I mean you are betting Mine That Bird in the classic... But Pedro is definately on full rest and 5 days is a huge advantage over 3 days with these two old guys.

Pedro should be able to get 6 or 7 solid innings. I just hope Lidge doesnt go out there. I can't handle our bullpen blowing up again but i REALLY cant handle Lidge blowing up.

francessca just had mccarthy on (the philly radio guy) he thinks if the phillies have a lead they will go to lidge

don't forget i also have awesome gem in the classic too , you don't only have to bet 1 horse in a race (dutch system)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

francessca just had mccarthy on (the philly radio guy) he thinks if the phillies have a lead they will go to lidge

don't forget i also have awesome gem in the classic too , you don't only have to bet 1 horse in a race (dutch system)

If we lose the game because of Lidge I will be hurting bad. If we lose not because of Lidge (even if its still a bullpen collapse) or just get crushed I can handle that. I just cant handle Lidge at all.

g/l. hope your team loses!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think if somehow the Phillies pull this off it will be even greater than last year. Last year was amazing because it has been my whole lifetime and I was finally able to celebrate something. Beating the Yanks in 7 would top that though.

I don't think so. Last year's was the biggest one for ya. This here is just normal greed. When you're a fan, you want to win them all, but that 1st one is the sweetest. Even though this is the more hated fough than last year. That's the only time I went to one of those parades ('81.)

[Gander]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I don't think so. Last year's was the biggest one for ya. This here is just normal greed. When you're a fan, you want to win them all, but that 1st one is the sweetest. Even though this is the more hated fough than last year. That's the only time I went to one of those parades ('81.)

I dont agree. Last year the Phils beat a fruitless Tampa team. They had the personality of a Geico commercial. This is the NY Yankees. I dont care if this is your 8th title in a row, when you beat the Yankees, it really means something. A la Boston in 04. Not because it was the first one in 100 years, but more so who we beat and how we did it in the ALCS.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Gander

I dont agree. Last year the Phils beat a fruitless Tampa team. They had the personality of a Geico commercial. This is the NY Yankees. I dont care if this is your 8th title in a row, when you beat the Yankees, it really means something. A la Boston in 04. Not because it was the first one in 100 years, but more so who we beat and how we did it in the ALCS.

I think if the Phillies went out and swept the Yankees last year would still be better.

but IF and its a huge IF.. we come back here and win in game 7 that just adds so much more to it being down 3-1 after game 4. Especially with the years ups and downs and the bullpen problems.. everything last year just seemed to go in our direction. While we had a much easier time winning the NL East this year.. those 18 blown saves were just one tough loss after another. I could just imagine how I will feel tomorrow if we win game 7 (if there is a game 7).. though I highly doubt its going to happen.

its all going to be a moot point though. thats my gut feeling.