8/28 (SAR): Travers Day

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

Until a hour ago I think my last post about Rachel was roughly 3 months ago, when I said I would not mention her until she ran in a grade 1 this year. I'm not sure you have your timeline right or you have mistaken me for someone else but please get your facts right...

You somehow saw fit to include the 2009 Woodward in your commentary, was that a coincidence?

[Indian Charlie]

You have to remember that CSC1985 thinks that a turf course with no water on it is yielding, or at best, soft.

He doesn't see things right.

[Dahoss]

I'd like to see Discreetly Mine and Rapport go at it going 12F on POLY. That would really be something.

[Smooth Operator]

A horse isn't legit till it proves it can go gate-to-wire in a Toga dirt sprint … lol

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What, do you really believe Z will even be in the BCC?

I say at best there is maybe a 40% chance she goes.

It's probably more like 15%.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'd like to see Discreetly Mine and Rapport go at it going 12F on POLY. That would really be something.

Rapport might bottom him out. She did improve a ton getting on the rubber.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

This is dumb and beneath you.

NT

What's dumb and beneath me is having to play BIASED tracks on major racing days. Unlike you, and some of the others here, racing for me is about handicapping and trying to make money. So, give me a fair course OR a consistently biased course, and I'll be just fine. It doesn't really matter to me which horse shapes up better historically or which horse is 'faster' on a given surface. Until a system is in place that can accurately measure 'speed', and reconcile it, over the different surfaces, it probably shouldn't matter to you either.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What, do you really believe Z will even be in the BCC?

I say at best there is maybe a 40% chance she goes.

It's probably more like 15%.

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

I'll take that as an emphatic drooling yes.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

WTF? What does going 12f on **** surfaces have to do with anything? QR would eat RK alive on dirt from 1f-12f. He would also beat him on shitty rubber going up to 10f. 12f would likely be pushing it and the GOAT 1 would have him ready to fire late.

He had his chance and REFUSED.

No Mas

[DaTruth]

What was the name of the horse who was scratched from the 2008 Santa Margarita instead of facing Nashoba's Key. Something about not being 100% ready.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

How many of your 4,000 posts are Rachel related? Be honest with yourself.

Ask the entire forum this question how many posts include Rachel or Zenyatta? What do you think that % would be? Indian Charlie or who I affectionately coined Guano has by far the best % for Zenyatta posts.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You have to remember that CSC1985 thinks that a turf course with no water on it is yielding, or at best, soft.

He doesn't see things right.

You sir have no idea what you are talking about.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

What was the name of the horse who was scratched from the 2008 Santa Margarita instead of facing Nashoba's Key. Something about not being 100% ready.

Excellent point. The ducking has been going on for a long time.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You like Super Saver in the BC Classic?

NT

Should've read closer. . . thought you were talking about Afleet Express.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Excellent point. The ducking has been going on for a long time.

I'd forgotten all about it (plus what a good horse Nashoba's Key was) until DrugS reminded us.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You somehow saw fit to include the 2009 Woodward in your commentary, was that a coincidence?

I'm not going to obfuscate or lie, I thought it was the best race to illustrate the point; however you missed the preamble about other than her, it was a grade 2 field so obviously I was complimenting her quality as gr.1 in 09.

[Danzig]

i can really see why this sport has a hard time getting new fans. many of the old fans are tiresome.
and if we can't find a reason to watch, and we're supposed to be fans, why would we expect anyone else to want to watch?

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i can really see why this sport has a hard time getting new fans. many of the old fans are tiresome.
and if we can't find a reason to watch, and we're supposed to be fans, why would we expect anyone else to want to watch?

TVG's "The Late Double" - now that will attract more fans than it turns away

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What's dumb and beneath me is having to play BIASED tracks on major racing days. Unlike you, and some of the others here, racing for me is about handicapping and trying to make money. So, give me a fair course OR a consistently biased course, and I'll be just fine. It doesn't really matter to me which horse shapes up better historically or which horse is 'faster' on a given surface. Until a system is in place that can accurately measure 'speed', and reconcile it, over the different surfaces, it probably shouldn't matter to you either.

How difficult is it to recognize what is going on and adjust your thinking on the fly or take you money and play somewhere else?

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

How difficult is it to recognize what is going on and adjust your thinking on the fly or take you money and play somewhere else?

Oh..you mean like most handicappers do? What is so hard for people to understand about that. Track bias is part of the game. It's a hell of a lot easier than trying to figure out who's going to run the fastest for the final 50 yards on rubber.