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Old 05-04-2011, 07:14 PM
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You seem to confuse "hope" with "fact"...it's a fact they didn't muster a defense by scrambling their jets, it's pure conjecture they were harboring OBL.
They scrambled jets, just were too late. Why is this even a concern?
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:15 PM
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Is that why you and Riot are concerned about their response time from attack? By the U.S.A. ? Do you and Riot even have a clue how Paki men treat their women HERE in the USA?
What in the world does that have to do with this discussion???
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:16 PM
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You seem to confuse "hope" with "fact"...it's a fact they didn't muster a defense by scrambling their jets, it's pure conjecture they were harboring OBL.

It's not conjecture we DIDN'T TRUST THEM and raided their country w/o their knowledge. That's fact.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:16 PM
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They scrambled jets, just were too late. Why is this even a concern?
Not a huge concern just interesting fact.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:18 PM
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What in the world does that have to do with this discussion???
It has to do with the people you're giving the benefit of the doubt to. ie Paki's
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:18 PM
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It's not conjecture we DIDN'T TRUST THEM and raided their country w/o their knowledge. That's fact.
True (at least as far as we know) but it's a big jump from that statement to the accusation they were harboring OBL.
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Is that why you and Riot are concerned about their response time from attack? By the U.S.A. ? Do you and Riot even have a clue how Paki men treat their women HERE in the USA?
Why don't you try commenting on the subject, instead of trying to start fights with the posters by insulting their intelligence?
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:19 PM
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I posted this on the poll thread:

If you want photos, Reuters has some here and is making a claim (not of bin Laden, but of two others there in the compound)

http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:22 PM
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It has to do with the people you're giving the benefit of the doubt to. ie Paki's
It is in the best interests of the US not to jump to conclusions here, ask questions...sure! Pakistan has the burden of answering how OBL could live in luxury scant miles from their capital and a mile from their military academy but it could be a matter of incompetency as easily as anything else.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:25 PM
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Why don't you try commenting on the subject, instead of trying to start fights with the posters by insulting their intelligence?
How did I insult inteligence?

And I'm not starting fights, just pointing out the country both of you seem to want to give the benefit of the doubt to is largely filled with men that would be considered animals by American standards.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:27 PM
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It is in the best interests of the US not to jump to conclusions here, ask questions...sure! Pakistan has the burden of answering how OBL could live in luxury scant miles from their capital and a mile from their military academy but it could be a matter of incompetency as easily as anything else.

it is not in the interest of the US to have allies who act as they (Pakistan) does.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:27 PM
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I posted this on the poll thread:

If you want photos, Reuters has some here and is making a claim (not of bin Laden, but of two others there in the compound)

http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
the guy lying on the green plastic squirt gun is abu ahmed al-kuwaiti. he's the "courier" they tracked to find bin laden but he's much more than that. very deeply involved in terror financing. getting him alone would have been headline news.

it was a very good mission.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:29 PM
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the guy lying on the green plastic squirt gun is abu ahmed al-kuwaiti. he's the "courier" they tracked to find bin laden but he's much more than that. very deeply involved in terror financing. getting him alone would have been headline news.
Ah - the guy that blew it and gave away his boss! (wasn't he the one that was careless?)

Good shot into the jaw, blowing out the back of the head. Go SEALs
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:32 PM
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How did I insult inteligence?

And I'm not starting fights, just pointing out the country both of you seem to want to give the benefit of the doubt to is largely filled with men that would be considered animals by American standards.
I never said anything remotely concerned with that. You really need to stop assuming and then posting what you think people think about things they don't post about. You misstate and misunderstand constantly, and irritatingly. I have said nothing about what "doubt" I do or do not give to Pakistan. Nothing at all.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:37 PM
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I never said anything remotely concerned with that. You really need to stop assuming and then posting what people think about things they don't post about. You misstate constantly.
OK sorry to group you with Somer in this case. Glad you disagree with his hope.

BTW What's amazing about the SEAL job is not one child was harmed (by us growing up locked in a compound?) and the wife was shot in the leg hopefully to knock her down and get the perfect 2 group to bin Laden's head. Would have been dead center but he made a move and the SEAL led him a little too far. IMA
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:46 PM
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the seals did a great job-the firefight didn't last much time at all; the majority of the approximate 40 mins involved was for search and seizure after the gunfight. can't help but wonder how much useful info was brought back for further investigating....hard drives, cell phones, bank records, plans. ought to be a treasure trove of info.

as for pakistan-they're doing their best to keep everyone happy. us, their citizens who hate us, their citizens who want an islamic theocracy, those who don't.....not surprised that bin laden was there, and i won't be surprised to find that some paki higher ups were helping him stay in hiding.

a masterful job; props to obama for going with the seal attack rather than the bombing that gates favored. not much info to be found and brought back when everything gets blown to kingdom come.
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Either did I. Wish you could read. That lie you're repeating to create your victimhood was exposed a few posts ago.



No. I just pointed out exactly what you are, and you can't take women standing up to your crap. I didn't post that response to you out of thin air. I posted it in defense of your bullshiat towards me. Why don't you post the crap you said to me, first, that prompted my reponse?

In fact, it's so true still, I'll repeat my words to you again. Maybe you can call me the c-word again to make yourself feel better:

"You're kind of a textbook case of the domineering misogynistic jackass, who sometimes degenerates into wife-beating."

The rest was just line by line comment about the nastiness you wrote to me (Lori left that part out):
"Ordering another person what to feel, attempted control of anothers emotions (setting them up for failure if they dare disagree with you)" "Attempted disparagement, but passive-aggressive, justification of their aggressive actions by saying another agrees with them" "Threat of future harm"

But this part most certainly still applies:

"Yup. You're the textbook misogynistic jackass. Good luck with that, buddy. "
Sorry i don't buy into your bullshit lies. Sorry to bust your bubble but I have never hit a lady before.

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Old 05-04-2011, 08:02 PM
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i'd appreciate, and no doubt others would as well, if these pissing contests could get relegated to a thread for that purpose. than, when some of us actually want to discuss the real reason for the thread existing, it's not necessary to wade thru pages of ish looking for a logical point.
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Why don't you try commenting on the subject, instead of trying to start fights with the posters by insulting their intelligence?
You should take your own advice.
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