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Old 02-28-2008, 09:25 PM
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He's right about the filly dying of the same lymphoma and where they were stabled... but I don't buy the reason given by Aleo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY they would spray a potentially carcinogenic substance into the Belmont barns with hundreds of millions of horseflesh soon to be stabled there (let alone ANY horses).
Aleo called it a rumor, so I wouldn't be quick to say he was necessarily placing any blame.

As far as spraying for rats, Santa Anita hires out pest control companies that spray around the barn area and set baited traps all over the place.

In general, I wouldn't count on racetrack management to display or consider any horsemanship when making those sorts of decisions, especially as far as the maintenance crew is concerned.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:26 PM
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Sovereign Award winner. She was really good.
I remember her being interesting at long odds in the Juvy Fillies. Ran a pretty even 5th or 6th.

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Actually they might...but why does it only cause cancer in good horses and if something was sprayed why only these 2 stalls and why no other incidents? You would have to believe that other barns would have been sprayed with the same substance and yet there are no reports of an unusual number of cancer deaths at Belmont.
They're pretty f*ckin stupid if they would do that...

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I completely agree......


....you should see the hole I put in my wall when I didn't see Dynever on anyone's list.
I laughed
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:27 PM
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In general, I wouldn't count on racetrack management to display or consider any horsemanship when making those sorts of decisions, especially as far as the maintenance crew is concerned.
Sad but true
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:28 PM
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She ran one big race setting a moderate pace while loose on the lead.....and more than a few poor races. Let's not get carried away because she died an unfortunate death.
I'm not.

... and I'm not saying she was the greatest filly ever, but she was very good.

As an aside, please refer to Dynever as Ittsak.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:28 PM
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Yeah, as soon as I heard Bataglia's voice I clicked off.

That was cruel, Chuck, very cruel.
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They're pretty f*ckin stupid if they would do that...

See post 297, last sentence
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:29 PM
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proving my ignorance here...but Batagglia used to call the KY Derby???


As a wise man on here once said...

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!
Yes... even the great ones have to step aside though. He has done enough
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:30 PM
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Yeah, as soon as I heard Bataglia's voice I clicked off.

That was cruel, Chuck, very cruel.
It was a classic call. He even slipped a "gaaaaiiinnnnniiiiinnnngggg ggggrrroooouuunnnddddd" as Spend a Buck drew away.
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See post 297, last sentence
I might as well spray my office tomorrow with rat poison then. Same difference, right?

The ignorance of management in this game NEVER ceases to amaze me.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:30 PM
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This is your winner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW9AG9HSkgU
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:32 PM
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Aleo flat out admits the spray was a rumor. However, the connection between these two horses is undeniable.
not necessarily. altho it would be a stretch of the imagination to think two horses would come down with the same type cancer at the same time, we all know that bizarre coincidences occur. it's what keeps conspiracy theorists in business.
there is a very rare brain disease...two friends contracted it and died within weeks. it's not contagious, and no one else in either family got it. bizarre, but unconnected. i remember reading about it.

in a way, it's almost like when you buy something you think is rare--and then all of a sudden, you see or hear about it seemingly everywhere...
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:32 PM
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None of it makes sense
Where is Jack Klugman when we need him?

There was a great Quincy episode involving a dead race horse.

Great lines:

- "I have to see a man about a horse. A dead horse."

- "I don't think this horse died of natural causes."

I'm pretty sure Harry Aleo probably watched Quincy.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:33 PM
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I'm not.

... and I'm not saying she was the greatest filly ever, but she was very good.

As an aside, please refer to Dynever as Ittsak.

There's absolutely nothing even close to proof that she was " very good. "
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:33 PM
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Yeah, as soon as I heard Bataglia's voice I clicked off.

That was cruel, Chuck, very cruel.
lol

first bruised knuckles, now bruised ear drums. not your night at all!
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:36 PM
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There's absolutely nothing even close to proof that she was " very good. "
Horse Racing may be the only sport in the world where slight variations in wording can create such a argument. It seems to call a horse "great" in this sport, he/she must be an all-time superstar.

Compared to the average filly, she was more than very good. Compared to all time greats, she was well below average. Its just a matter of perspective.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:37 PM
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Where is Jack Klugman when we need him?

There was a great Quincy episode involving a dead race horse.

Great lines:

- "I have to see a man about a horse. A dead horse."

- "I don't think this horse died of natural causes."

I'm pretty sure Harry Aleo probably watched Quincy.
I want to get a Quincy style houseboat
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:37 PM
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Horse Racing may be the only sport in the world where slight variations in wording can create such a argument. It seems to call a horse "great" in this sport, he/she must be an all-time superstar.

As it should.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:38 PM
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There's absolutely nothing even close to proof that she was " very good. "
Okay.

I liked her in the Ontario Debutante and in the Mazarine BC.

I'll leave it at that.

Maybe you need to check out KRIM's "beautiful relaxing video" or something.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:38 PM
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There's absolutely nothing even close to proof that she was " very good. "
You're forgetting how truly awful that field was. That phony Adieu was 2nd choice at 4-1 or something... I thought Folklore was a layup (and yes... that was my only winner that day)
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Horse Racing may be the only sport in the world where slight variations in wording can create such a argument. It seems to call a horse "great" in this sport, he/she must be an all-time superstar.
Isnt that the meaning of the word?
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