2012 Triple Crown Trail: 11 try to deny I'll Have Another

[Mike]

What's the purse distribution for the Jerome? 1st place, anyways.

[Gate Dancer]

THE JEROME
$200,000
(Grade II)
(Up to $34,000 NYSBFOA)
FOR THREE YEAR OLDS No nomination fee. $2,000 to pass the entry box. A supplemental nomination fee of $2,000 in addition to the entry fee may be made at any time prior to the closing of entries. All starters will receive a $1,500 rebate. The purse to be divided 60% to the winner, 20% to second, 10% to third, 5% to fourth, 3% to fifth and 2% divided equally among the remaining finishers.

Looks like:

1st= $120,000
2nd= $40,000
3rd= $20,000
4th= $5,000

[tywizard]

Any word on some of the entries for the undercard? I saw where shack was pointing toward the derby undercard. Any others that we know of?

[cal828]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Ya its the same every year

Hansen will take money since he won the Juvy,he is white and they will do 5 stories on Dr.Crazy. TCI will take the Borel money,Mark Valeski will take the Rosie cash ,Bodemeister cause of Bob and his son plus heart attack and then there is the Went The Day Well who will take cash cause of the AK angle.

Only 1 question? Who will be this year's Wise Guy Horse???

Daddy Nose Best?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by cal828

Daddy Nose Best?

Agreed, unfortunately. I like him a lot.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by cal828

Daddy Nose Best?

Originally Posted by justindew

Agreed, unfortunately. I like him a lot.

His Sunland Derby will get discounted because of the insane speed duel but it was a fast race on figures and he finished-up strong. The big negative at this point is how the runner-up didn't exactly flatter in the Arkansas Derby.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

His Sunland Derby will get discounted because it's the Sunland Derby.

FTFY

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by cal828

Daddy Nose Best?

Ya same here,which sucks cause was hoping he would be the BOMB(25/1 or so) on the exotics

[tjfla]

Could get interesting with Sat Races

If Stirred Up wins the Jerome he is at 216,000 right behind Reveron

If Castaway wins the Lexington he is IN and if he comes in 2nd he is at 202,000 right behind Reveron,Morgan's Guerilla wins he is tied with Reveron at 220,000 but loses the Tie Breaker and News Pending wins he is at 200,000 which is behind Reveron

Doubtful that we get any defections beside Rousing Sermon which would make Reveron #20(unless Castaway wins,which would make El Padrino #20),if Secret Circle and Liaison both go

I wonder what Baffert would do if Stirred Up and Castaway are #21 and #22 with Secret Circle and Liaison only possible!!!!

[justindew]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Ya same here,which sucks cause was hoping he would be the BOMB(25/1 or so) on the exotics

I feel like the trend in recent years has been for the odds climbing on the favorites, and dropping on everyone else. That's why I'm seeing a post time favorite in the 7-1 range, with horses like Daddy Nose Best, El Padrino, and Mark Valeski landing in the 20-1 to 25-1 range. Although I have a bad feeling we'll see something in the teens for Daddy Nose Best.

[tjfla]

No clue how reliable this source is but looks like Rousing Sermon is IN

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/201...kentucky_derby

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by justindew

Although I have a bad feeling we'll see something in the teens for Daddy Nose Best.

The teens in this year's Derby could possibly be the 10th pick though.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by justindew

I feel like the trend in recent years has been for the odds climbing on the favorites, and dropping on everyone else. That's why I'm seeing a post time favorite in the 7-1 range, with horses like Daddy Nose Best, El Padrino, and Mark Valeski landing in the 20-1 to 25-1 range. Although I have a bad feeling we'll see something in the teens for Daddy Nose Best.

Can't really see the post time favorite being as high as 7-1 in a year in which there has really been only one blow out win. I don't think the first time or occasional bettors and probably a good segment of seasoned handicappers will be able to get past the 9 and half length win and the 108 beyer.

[tjfla]

According to DRF.com

Secret Circle is out of the Derby-gonna get tests tho for something??

He prolly has that same liver disease as Mo last year,you know the one which symptoms include inability to get 1 1/4

[Danzig]

tough morning for the baffert barn. wonder what precautionary tests they're doing on secret circle? supposedly no surgery needed.... that coupled with the princess arabella retirement news-an odd morning.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by tjfla

According to DRF.com

Secret Circle is out of the Derby-gonna get tests tho for something??

He prolly has that same liver disease as Mo last year,you know the one which symptoms include inability to get 1 1/4

With all due respect, that's an ill-advised editorialization. (And I'm being kind). Not running Secret Circle in the Derby is a praise-worthy decision, not one to be derided.

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by Kasept

With all due respect, that's an ill-advised editorialization. (And I'm being kind). Not running Secret Circle in the Derby is a praise-worthy decision, not one to be derided.

No I totally agree with u,I was just making a joke of the "tests" part is all.

I wish they would just say he can't get the distance so we are gonna rest him for the summer sprints is all. Instead we get he is out of the derby and we are gonna run tests??

[asudevil]

Bone Chip....

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by tjfla

According to DRF.com

Secret Circle is out of the Derby-gonna get tests tho for something??

He prolly has that same liver disease as Mo last year,you know the one which symptoms include inability to get 1 1/4

My Apologizes!! He is Out for 3-4 months with a legit injury

[Indian Charlie]

Yeah, and Mo was not legitimately compromised.