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Old 02-02-2009, 03:50 PM
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http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...WS01/902010493


Dubai's ruler gives $2 million to UK cancer unit via Lexington firm

Gift to UK center from Dubai's ruler
By Laura Ungar


The ruler of Dubai has donated $2 million to the Markey Cancer Foundation for a blood and bone marrow transplant unit at the University of Kentucky's cancer center.

Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, who is also vice president and prime minister of the United Arab Emirates, gave the gift through Darley Stud Management LLC, the Lexington-based American branch of Darley, his global thoroughbred-breeding company.

"Sheikh Mohammed has been interested in the Lexington community as more than just a home to breed and raise horses," said James Bell, president of Darley USA. "To be involved in something that touches so many people -- as cancer does -- is something that he has been interested in. It branches further than just the equine industry."

The money will be used for building materials, furniture and medical equipment such as monitors for the 15-bed blood and bone marrow transplant unit. In recognition of the gift, it will be named the Darley Bone Marrow Transplant Unit and will keep this name when it moves to the new UK Albert B. Chandler Hospital, scheduled to open in phases beginning in 2010.

Since it was founded in 1982, more than 1,100 patients have received transplants through the bone marrow program, which has experts in transplants using stem cells from the patients and those using stem cells from a donor.

"This is a pretty wonderful gift. We're thrilled," said Dr. Randall Rowland, president and CEO of the foundation, the fundraising arm for UK's Markey Cancer Center. "It's certainly a significant gift. It's not our largest gift ever, but it's the largest gift we've had in the last year."

Dr. Michael Karpf, executive vice president for health affairs at UK, said it "shows a commitment and engagement with the Lexington community for the sheikh, and that's very important.…You need to have community support to make institutions great."
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:54 AM
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Hey man look whos for sale !!!!!
Got any money ??? lol :-)
The Group 2 winning stallion young stallion, Written Tycoon is to be offered for sale at the Great Southern Sale in Victoria to dissolve the current syndicate.

Written Tycoon

A son of Iglesia and the Last Tycoon mare Party Miss from the immediate family of Group 1 winners Yell and Anthems, Written Tycoon was a good juvenile with his career highlight coming in the G2 Todman Slipper Trial, where he accounted for the Group 2 winners Jet Spur, Domesday and Flying Pegasus.
He was retired to Eliza Park stud and has been afforded every opportunity to attain success, having covered more than 200 mares during his two years covering mares.
The sale follows a decision by the shareholders which includes Eliza Park's stud master to end the current syndicate.
Although unfortunate, it's considered the best way of resolving the differences between various share holders. Eliza Park supports the action being taken, said, Eliza Park's CEO Cameron Croucher.
Croucher has acknowledged and thanked the breeders who have supported the stallion so well in his two years to date.
Written Tycoon will be offered for sale on Wednesday May 20 at 11am, immediately preceding the broodmare section of the Great Southern Sale.
Inglis Director Peter Heagney said this represented a rare opportunity to secure a young, commercial stallion on the open market.
"Written Tycoon has been strongly supported and importantly he has shown to have excellent fertility. He is a lovely individual himself and he is stamping that in his progeny, as I have seen some outstanding foals in his first crop,"¯ Heagney said.
All parties interested in purchasing Written Tycoon should contact Heagney at William Inglis. While inspections can be arranged by contacting David Somers at Eliza Park.

The 2009 Great Southern Sale will be held over four sessions, beginning next Monday, May 18 from 12 noon. The sale starts with two days of weanlings, before the bloodstock section begins on Wednesday.
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Hey man look whos for sale !!!!!
Got any money ??? lol :-)
The Group 2 winning stallion young stallion, Written Tycoon is to be offered for sale at the Great Southern Sale in Victoria to dissolve the current syndicate.

Written Tycoon

A son of Iglesia and the Last Tycoon mare Party Miss from the immediate family of Group 1 winners Yell and Anthems, Written Tycoon was a good juvenile with his career highlight coming in the G2 Todman Slipper Trial, where he accounted for the Group 2 winners Jet Spur, Domesday and Flying Pegasus.
He was retired to Eliza Park stud and has been afforded every opportunity to attain success, having covered more than 200 mares during his two years covering mares.
The sale follows a decision by the shareholders which includes Eliza Park's stud master to end the current syndicate.
Although unfortunate, it's considered the best way of resolving the differences between various share holders. Eliza Park supports the action being taken, said, Eliza Park's CEO Cameron Croucher.
Croucher has acknowledged and thanked the breeders who have supported the stallion so well in his two years to date.
Written Tycoon will be offered for sale on Wednesday May 20 at 11am, immediately preceding the broodmare section of the Great Southern Sale.
Inglis Director Peter Heagney said this represented a rare opportunity to secure a young, commercial stallion on the open market.
"Written Tycoon has been strongly supported and importantly he has shown to have excellent fertility. He is a lovely individual himself and he is stamping that in his progeny, as I have seen some outstanding foals in his first crop,"¯ Heagney said.
All parties interested in purchasing Written Tycoon should contact Heagney at William Inglis. While inspections can be arranged by contacting David Somers at Eliza Park.

The 2009 Great Southern Sale will be held over four sessions, beginning next Monday, May 18 from 12 noon. The sale starts with two days of weanlings, before the bloodstock section begins on Wednesday.
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Wow, that's bad news for Eliza Park, unless they manage to get other people to buy into him and bring him back there. He was probably my fav stallion during my time at Eliza. A proper character, although I also loved Magnus.

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Old 06-24-2009, 08:17 PM
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Put it this way, the news about Electrocusionist wasn't what you would call prompt
Not to start this up or anything (and there have been a few posts, like on the Jealous Again thread.... I just let them go cause there's no need to fight when it's just a difference of opinion) but did you see this?

http://www.godolphin.com/NewsArticle.aspx?id=4472

This was on their site the following day.

When I asked about Formal Decree, I got an answer immediately.

I'm just pointing out that I think they're very free and open with information. They don't need to be but they are.
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Not to start this up or anything (and there have been a few posts, like on the Jealous Again thread.... I just let them go cause there's no need to fight when it's just a difference of opinion) but did you see this?

http://www.godolphin.com/NewsArticle.aspx?id=4472

This was on their site the following day.

When I asked about Formal Decree, I got an answer immediately.

I'm just pointing out that I think they're very free and open with information. They don't need to be but they are.
That's one case.

What about Rio De La Plata.......... they've never mentioned anything about him and (although I don't know for sure) I'm not sure if he's even alive anymore

I don't want to fight or argue, but if you knew just how many horses are destroyed each year at either godolphin or darley pre training, you would be shocked and devistated. Horses we don't even know existed, horses that are purchased for hundreds of thousands as yearlings that never make the track.

I know of four within the last two months, all from Darley pre training.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:45 PM
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That's one case.

What about Rio De La Plata.......... they've never mentioned anything about him and (although I don't know for sure) I'm not sure if he's even alive anymore

I don't want to fight or argue, but if you knew just how many horses are destroyed each year at either godolphin or darley pre training, you would be shocked and devistated. Horses we don't even know existed, horses that are purchased for hundreds of thousands as yearlings that never make the track.

I know of four within the last two months, all from Darley pre training.
Well he's listed as being in training on their site anyway.

The four you mention... who were they?

As far as the rest of your post come on... this is their passion. They don't sit down and think of which horses they can "ruin".

Again, not trying to fight here.
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I emailed Godolphin yesterday evening about Rio.....

Got an answer (4:41 am my time - how's that for fast?)... they're planning on running him around the end of August / beginning of September.

See my point?
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:33 AM
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Well, that is good news, but why can't they be more open and explain that, write it in the press. They are losing fans hand over fist.

Also, it was reported on thursday that Fly Cloud had come out of her race at Ascot very lame. Why was it reported that she was lame a whole week after the race? I can tell you why....... because she got lame after they worked her!

I do not know the names, some of the pre training lot are not even named yet. I think they were all two year olds.

You mention their passion? What passion. They don't care anymore. They don't seem bothered. They are still using their scattergun approach at buying anything and everything. Looks at Donativum, a brilliant 2yo, has since gone to Godolphin and looks a shadow of his former self. There are so many of them.

What don't they realise? Can't they see that they are failing in all areas of the 'business'?

My best friend who used to work there, he's still gutted about Desert Authority who he still says is one of the best horses he's ever ridden. He was unbeaten in two starts and then broken down.

It isn't coincidence that Godolphin suffer more break downs and injuries than any other trainer.
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isnt it odd that they have Fabre training tons of his horses and he decides when they should be sent to Godolphin and Bin Suroor. They should get their top 50 horses, and have Fabre training them, not Bin Suroor. Its so bloody clear, I cant believe nobody has suggested it..
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Well, that is good news, but why can't they be more open and explain that, write it in the press.
I think they are open but come on... they have how many horses?

Can't be expected to write a press release for each one every day.

Be fair.
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I think they are open but come on... they have how many horses?

Can't be expected to write a press release for each one every day.

Be fair.
If they can't simply say "the filly returned home lame" like anyone else would do, I think that shows that they cannot cope with the amount of horses under their 'care'..... if you can go as far as calling it care.

You don't, all of a sudden produce a full article a week after the race. Anyway, she was injured in a piece of work, but once again they are covering themselves.

'they' as an organisation are clueless. They must be to plough so much money into it and come out with a negative return every year.

I wonder how many billions they will spend on yearlings this autumn, and I wonder what percentage of them we will see on the track running in the royal blue silks. I think it's currently about 15%!

Each week, Mark Johnston will be running a 3 or 4yo in a maiden somewhere and the first line of the write up reads "ex godolphin" or "expensive pruchase never made the track for godolphin"

Ok, it's their money and they can spend it as they like, but it's quickly putting people off buying yearlings and selling them to Darley! It's putting people off racing. When Canford Cliffs destroyed the field in the coventry people weren't saying "wow, what a performance", instead we heard cries of "please god don't let godolphin have him" and I'm not exagerating that one little bit. That is how fed up people are of this joke outfit.
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If they can't simply say "the filly returned home lame" like anyone else would do
They did though.

http://www.timeform.com/godolphin/gd...9551&source=01

good turn of foot to seal things 2f out: stays 1½m: acts on good to firm and good to soft going: looked sure to continue to progress, but reported to have returned lame after Royal Ascot.
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They did though.

http://www.timeform.com/godolphin/gd...9551&source=01

good turn of foot to seal things 2f out: stays 1½m: acts on good to firm and good to soft going: looked sure to continue to progress, but reported to have returned lame after Royal Ascot.
That was only added the other day, when the article was published in the racing post.
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That was only added the other day, when the article was published in the racing post.
I honestly don't know when it was added but the horses I follow... the comments are generally added pretty quickly. You might be right... not sure.

As far as your accusation re more breakdowns and injuries... is that simple mathmatics? I mean if they have more horses they'll have a higher percentage?

I'm not trying to fight about this but we're both stubborn.

I know you can see the positive in many things in life but I think you refuse to acknowledge all the good they do for racing on an international scale.

That's cool.

I'll always appreciate and back them just as I know some will always look for what they're doing wrong.

Good luck to Black Snowflake next weekend.

Nice to see Schiaparelli entered...
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I honestly don't know when it was added but the horses I follow... the comments are generally added pretty quickly. You might be right... not sure.

As far as your accusation re more breakdowns and injuries... is that simple mathmatics? I mean if they have more horses they'll have a higher percentage?

I'm not trying to fight about this but we're both stubborn.

I know you can see the positive in many things in life but I think you refuse to acknowledge all the good they do for racing on an international scale.

That's cool.

I'll always appreciate and back them just as I know some will always look for what they're doing wrong.

Good luck to Black Snowflake next weekend.

Nice to see Schiaparelli entered...
You appreciate the good they do for racing? Could you explain what good they do for racing?? They take smaller owners out of the industry, they continue to use the scattergun approach to attempt to buy the competition.

George Strawbridge got it in the neck for buying Fantasia so that Rainbow View wouldn't have to run against her this season (not that it made any difference) but that's what Godolphin do every year. They are slowly taking the fun out of the sport, and even the most avid fans are getting fed up.

At the start, I was a fan. They appeared to have good ideas, and real plan and they were going places real quickly but then they started to think they could do it on their own without the help of people like David Loder, Neil Graham, Tom Albertrini (sp?) and many others who allowed everything to run smoothly. They didn't buy half as many horses back then, their breeding operation worked. Everything they ran in a maiden was expected to win, everything they ran in a group/graded race would be expected to win. Compare those days to now. It's just a joke.

They no longer have a plan. Their idea of training a racehorse is to gallop them as fast as they can, and as many times as they can in a short space of time. Sure, the horses will be fit but they will also be ruined very quickly. Ofcourse, they don't do it on purpose, but they are clueless.

mmsc, if you ever come to Newmarket and get to see a group of Godolphin horses doing a piece of work, you'd be forgiven in thinking you were watching a group race, it's no wonder they have so many injuries.

I'm not a huge fan of Coolmore either, as their policy of running pacemakers in each and every race just isn't what this sport is about, but at least they rely and back their own breeding operation. If Godolphin don't back their breeding operation, Darley then why would other people want to? It sends out such a negative message and they wonder why they are outdone by Coolmore each and every year.

It's frustration, mmsc. Too many horses I've grown up to love have gone there and been ruined and never fulfilled their potential. It's frustration that the likes of Crisford are completely clueless, but so big-headed he thinks he can do everything himself. It's annoying that they used trainers to get their ideas and then said they were no longer needed. Neil Graham did wonders with the 2yos' a few years ago, and he's a great guy, wouldn't say a bad word about anyone and a real horseman and then out of the blue he was told they no longer required his services and wanted him to leave.

It's good to see Schiaperelli entered again, but he's another horse we are unlikely to see at his best ever again. All after working him too hard very soon after they had purchased him.

I hope one day they see sense, cut down on horses, bring in some good minds and soon the glory days will be back, but if they continue to use the scattergun approach of buying horses, spending billions on yearlings, failing to back their breeding operation they will continue to struggle and continue to be a laughing stock throughout Europe. They no longer have unlimited funds, the oil is slowly running out and cheaper sources have been found, The UAE has been hardest hit in the global recession and Sheikh Mo is losing billions every year. These next five years are important, and if they don't make changes fast they could find themselves dead and buried.
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I thought youd be disappointed. He would have been headed to HK otherwise!!
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You appreciate the good they do for racing? Could you explain what good they do for racing?
I have like 100 times.
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I thought youd be disappointed. He would have been headed to HK otherwise!!
I didn't know that but it's okay.

HK has the greatest horsies evah..... I'm sure a few other good ones will make it over soon enough.
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