American Idol Round of 9: A Horseplayer's Perspective - Page 2

ArlJim78 · #21 04-03-2007, 11:52 PM

Its not like Jordin has to win it in order to sell records or to be heavily marketed and to bring in the cash. Even if she were to come in second or third she will have made her mark, its not like all the deals are off. Theres room for everyone, different styles, etc.

#22 04-03-2007, 11:56 PM

No she has to win. The only American Idol I haven't picked has been Carrie Underwood and that's because I got her confused with a cardboard cutout of Carrie Underwood when she performed.

ArlJim78 · #23 04-04-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

No she has to win. The only American Idol I haven't picked has been Carrie Underwood and that's because I got her confused with a cardboard cutout of Carrie Underwood when she performed.

she may win, because of her ability to get votes, charm, etc.

but she is not the best singer in my opinion.

onebadbeast · #24 04-04-2007, 01:26 AM

Frank Sinatra Is Rolling Over Again In His Grave. I Have Seen Him 10 Times And There Will Never Be Another. I Hate That Chris Richardson Too He Is Disgusting, Like A Virginia Yodeler.

brianwspencer · #25 04-04-2007, 08:30 AM

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Ruben Studdard was a great performer too

Are you serious? He was a good singer. All voice, zero performance. He was not, a performer in the sense that we're using the word to describe Melinda.

Cajungator26 · #26 04-04-2007, 09:53 AM

I thought Ruben was a better performer than a singer. I'm still smarting over the fact that Clay got cheated out of that.

philcski · #27 04-04-2007, 10:10 AM

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She was a backup singer for a reason. After Taylor Hicks' album bombed the last thing the show needs is another winner who can't sell records. Whether you like it or not the music industry is all style and no substance. Jordin is marketable. She's young, pretty, has a great personality and can sing. Melinda is older, not so pretty, shy and can sing.

Simon is looking for Melinda to make a mistake because she's not going to be a star. You can tell he's pulling for Jordin because she has the most potential to be one.

Wait... you think Jordin is "attractive" and Melinda is not?
What am I watching?
They're both mediocre, at best, attractiveness wise. Neither of them will sell records solely based on that.

Melinda is a SPECTACULAR singer, maybe the best American Idol has ever heard.
Jordin is outstanding as well, but not on the level of Melinda.

Cajungator26 · #28 04-04-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Wait... you think Jordin is "attractive" and Melinda is not?
What am I watching?
They're both mediocre, at best, attractiveness wise. Neither of them will sell records solely based on that.

Melinda is a SPECTACULAR singer, maybe the best American Idol has ever heard.
Jordin is outstanding as well, but not on the level of Melinda.

Not sure I'd go that far...

I'm with you on the attractiveness, though. I don't think either one are in the Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood league when it comes to that.

brianwspencer · #29 04-04-2007, 10:49 AM

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Not sure I'd go that far...

I'm with you on the attractiveness, though. I don't think either one are in the Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood league when it comes to that.

Oh man, I would go that far. I think she's the best vocalist the competition has ever seen, at least as far as how they perform on the show.

I was watching WGN the other day and their Idol rewind show, and the first season was on. I was blown away at how much better Kelly Clarkson is now than she was then. She rightfully won that season, but oh my, her performances were good but not even in the same world as Melinda when she was on Idol.

Buffymommy · #30 04-04-2007, 11:39 AM

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Oh man, I would go that far. I think she's the best vocalist the competition has ever seen, at least as far as how they perform on the show.

I was watching WGN the other day and their Idol rewind show, and the first season was on. I was blown away at how much better Kelly Clarkson is now than she was then. She rightfully won that season, but oh my, her performances were good but not even in the same world as Melinda when she was on Idol.

NOW you make me mad. Don't you diss Kelly... I may have to smack you down.

But seriously, take into consideration that Melinda has been singing professionally for seven or so years. Kelly was an amatuer when she was on. Were they to go head to head now? Kelly would blow Melinda out of the water!

brianwspencer · #31 04-04-2007, 11:53 AM

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NOW you make me mad. Don't you diss Kelly... I may have to smack you down.

But seriously, take into consideration that Melinda has been singing professionally for seven or so years. Kelly was an amatuer when she was on. Were they to go head to head now? Kelly would blow Melinda out of the water!

I love Kelly completely. I'd be embarrassed to let you see my Ipod

Of course Kelly is better now than she was on the show, that was the whole point I was making -- that Melinda's performances and flawlessness on the show are unmatched in Idol history.

I think, too, that you are a little off by treading on the concept that ANYONE would "blow Melinda out of the water." You may like Kelly more, but Melinda is thus far pitch perfect (why she made a great backup singer) which makes there very few people who would even be capable of coming close to her. I think that Melinda is "technically" better, no doubt.

ArlJim78 · #32 04-04-2007, 12:42 PM

all this Melinda vs Kelly or Ruben vs Clay stuff reminds me of the debates you find in other sections regarding Invasor vs Bernardini, Perfect Drift vs Funny Cide, Seattle Slew vs Spectacular Bid, etc.

Pick any subject and the result would be the same because I think horseracing in particular attracts opinionated people.

brianwspencer · #33 04-04-2007, 01:22 PM

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all this Melinda vs Kelly or Ruben vs Clay stuff reminds me of the debates you find in other sections regarding Invasor vs Bernardini, Perfect Drift vs Funny Cide, Seattle Slew vs Spectacular Bid, etc.

Pick any subject and the result would be the same because I think horseracing in particular attracts opinionated people.

That's why I've found it so interesting following this stupid show with everyone here. It's insane to me how some people find fault with singers I think are flawless, and how some manage to like singers that I think are horrendous.

It's too much fun.

somerfrost · #34 04-04-2007, 02:26 PM

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That's why I've found it so interesting following this stupid show with everyone here. It's insane to me how some people find fault with singers I think are flawless, and how some manage to like singers that I think are horrendous.

It's too much fun.

Brian...what disagreements do you have with my rankings this week...I assume you disagree with my lofty positioning of Haley...just wondering since you haven't commented!
I agree that Melinda is the best Idol has seen so far, Carry Underwood second and then Kelly...all of whom I love by the way!
I also think that with Melinda, Jordin, LaKisha and, to me at least, Haley, this is the best group at the top...other years have been deeper!
I predict that Melinda and Jordin will be stars, LaKisha and Haley have a chance down the road, who knows what will happen with Sanjaya.
I still maintain that Melinda is no more "professional" than other singers with 10 or more years of singing in front of audiences.

brianwspencer · #35 04-04-2007, 04:37 PM

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Brian...what disagreements do you have with my rankings this week...I assume you disagree with my lofty positioning of Haley...just wondering since you haven't commented!

I never commented on your rankings because if you check out the "phone-in votes" I gave each performer, they essentially coincide perfectly with your rankings, with only Sanjaya being one spot lower than Blake last night.

I had zero beef with your ranking of Haley last night, she tied for fourth with Gina and Chris R. on mine behind Melinda, Jordin, and Lakisha.

I do disagree with your lofty positioning of Haley on any week thus far where the "sex kitten" angle didn't come into play. Any week outside of those two weeks, a ranking outside of the bottom third was over the top for me.

somerfrost · #36 04-04-2007, 04:54 PM

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I never commented on your rankings because if you check out the "phone-in votes" I gave each performer, they essentially coincide perfectly with your rankings, with only Sanjaya being one spot lower than Blake last night.

I had zero beef with your ranking of Haley last night, she tied for fourth with Gina and Chris R. on mine behind Melinda, Jordin, and Lakisha.

I do disagree with your lofty positioning of Haley on any week thus far where the "sex kitten" angle didn't come into play. Any week outside of those two weeks, a ranking outside of the bottom third was over the top for me.

Yeah, I agree that's her element...she must stick to that. Thing is, it can be adapted to just about any genre unlike Blake and his so-called "cool" persona. I think Haley has a future but I won't be surprised if she is voted off tonight...Phil deserves to leave and, of course, Sanjaya talent-wise but the bottom three will probably be Phil, Haley and either Gina or Chris. We'll see!