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Old 02-04-2008, 11:42 AM
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While I am all for going for the cash, and I am obviously not a trainer, nor will I ever be, but wouldn't it be beneficial to get this horse a 8f prep before going a bizillion miles to run 10f's without meds, off a layoff.

Just going there seems like a recipe for disaster.
The news the other day was that he'd have a prep there.....

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19593

Who knows.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:42 AM
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Your last prediction on this board was that Street Sense was lame and wouldn't even start in the Derby. You saw it with your own eyes.....while watching TV. It's not your horse judging skills I don't believe, it is your remote manipulation, and my guess is you were watching " Mr. Ed " by mistake and got confused. Happens to the best of us.
Personally, I think someone stole her user name and password or she was zapped by aliens because she was never this retarded before, from the Ron Paul crap to other things....
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:45 AM
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Your last prediction on this board was that Street Sense was lame and wouldn't even start in the Derby. You saw it with your own eyes.....while watching TV. It's not your horse judging skills I don't believe, it is your remote manipulation, and my guess is you were watching " Mr. Ed " by mistake and got confused. Happens to the best of us.
Who cares about my last prediction? It won't have a thing to do with the outcome in Dubai...

Well, we all saw Street Sense's workout before the Belmont just as we all saw Discreet Cat's workout before the BC...I'll leave it at that. Just because the horses run fast, does not mean they are sound. You see it all the time, and I've seen/been around enough sore horses in the mornings to know that they can run through their problems on race day. We all know how Any Given Saturday turned out after that race at Tampa (another horse that I said was off)... Todd Pletcher was only able to get one truly good race out of him at the end of the summer after giving him a break....

So, I was wrong about Street Sense at the beginning of the year, just as you were wrong about Lost in the Fog. I'm sure we both will be wrong many other times as well. I know that I have been wrong a lot of times before, but who hasn't when it comes to horse racing?
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The news the other day was that he'd have a prep there.....

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19593

Who knows.
You would think the writers at Bloodhorse would make a mention to that. If they do that I guess it is cool. From a financial perspective, which Jackson might be considering given he probably shelled out alot of cash to become the primary, then the prep will be larger then anything here. But he runs like crap in the prep, you risk looking like a moron
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:57 AM
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Who cares about my last prediction? It won't have a thing to do with the outcome in Dubai...

Well, we all saw Street Sense's workout before the Belmont just as we all saw Discreet Cat's workout before the BC...I'll leave it at that. Just because the horses run fast, does not mean they are sound. You see it all the time, and I've seen/been around enough sore horses in the mornings to know that they can run through their problems on race day. We all know how Any Given Saturday turned out after that race at Tampa (another horse that I said was off)... Todd Pletcher was only able to get one truly good race out of him at the end of the summer after giving him a break....

So, I was wrong about Street Sense at the beginning of the year, just as you were wrong about Lost in the Fog. I'm sure we both will be wrong many other times as well. I know that I have been wrong a lot of times before, but who hasn't when it comes to horse racing?

OMG.

Scav is right.......even you weren't this far gone before. I can only hope this is attributable to the very understandable college student's dabbling with very hard drugs.

I hope you get clean before performing your first major triple bypass surgery.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:59 AM
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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Shes a doctor too?
Either that or she thinks she plays one on TV.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:01 PM
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Shes a doctor too?
Are you referring to me?
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:05 PM
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Are you referring to me?
No, me
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:06 PM
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Shes a doctor too?
I'm a pre-med student at UNC-Chapel Hill.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:08 PM
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I'm a pre-med student at UNC-Chapel Hill.
Is it true that the dorms there are overcrowded and they have placed many students in the local Holiday Inn Express??
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:10 PM
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Is it true that the dorms there are overcrowded and they have placed many students in the local Holiday Inn Express??

Don't you think we should clear up the whole mess about Street Sense's pre-Belmont work first before getting to this?
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:11 PM
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I'm confused. Now I'm a little slow, but Street sense's work before the Belmont? Any Given Saturday had one good race after the Tampa Bay Derby? Huh? Wasn't he awesome in the Dwyer and Haskell and workmanlike in the Brooklyn, to a horse that came back and won a stake?

You think it's easy following horse racing and performing eye transplants in Nepal?
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:12 PM
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Don't you think we should clear up the whole mess about Street Sense's pre-Belmont work first before getting to this?
I'm thinking that an answer to my question might help clear up the other matters.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:12 PM
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I'm confused. Now I'm a little slow, but Street sense's work before the Belmont? Any Given Saturday had one good race after the Tampa Bay Derby? Huh? Wasn't he awesome in the Dwyer and Haskell and workmanlike in the Brooklyn, to a horse that came back and won a stake?
Yes, Street Sense's work just before the Belmont. After that work, they decided not to race the horse because he looked so bad.

I said that he was awesome in the Haskell. Well, the only race that was exceptional was the Haskell. He ran a decent race in the Dwyer beating a mediocre Grade I horse on the dirt (Nobiz Like Showbiz couldn't come near the likes of Hard Spun, Lawyer Ron, Street Sense, Curlin....etc.), and didn't look all that great in the Brooklyn. He was bad after the Tampa Bay Derby until he got the break after the Derby. Then, he transformed into a whole new horse after the break. He was always that talented. Even BTW said that. I thought he was BTW's Derby horse if I'm not mistaken. So, you tell me...
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:14 PM
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I'm thinking that an answer to my question might help clear up the other matters.

I'm thinking of checking in at the Holiday Inn Express down in Chapel Hill.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:18 PM
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Is it true that the dorms there are overcrowded and they have placed many students in the local Holiday Inn Express??
UNC Chapel Hill is a crowded place when it comes to housing, but I am a junior and I live in a single dorm. Alot of people live in off-campus housing because alot of the people that go to my school come from wealthy families. I don't think anyone is living in the local Holiday Inn Express. At least, I don't know anyone who is...
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:20 PM
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UNC Chapel Hill is a crowded place when it comes to housing, but I am a junior and I live in a single dorm. Alot of people live in off-campus housing because alot of the people that go to my school come from wealthy families. I don't think anyone is living in the local Holiday Inn Express. At least, I don't know anyone who is...

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Old 02-04-2008, 12:21 PM
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I guess I don't get your point. Street Sense had a bad work before the Belmont, so he didn't run. So what? Personally, i think after he lost the Preakness he was never coming for the Belmont, but who cares? What does his bad work months later have to do with your pre Derby assessment? he obviously wasn't that affected by that work because he went on to win the Jim Dandy and Travers.

Again, I miss your point on AGS. He had some issues after the Tampa Bay Derby, was rushed by the connections to make the race and was wisely given a break, then showed he was a good one. his Dwyer was a very good race, i don't care who it was against, he crushed the field.
Think what you want. I'm just telling you what I was hearing, and what I was talking to trainers about.
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:25 PM
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I guess I don't get your point. Street Sense had a bad work before the Belmont, so he didn't run. So what? Personally, i think after he lost the Preakness he was never coming for the Belmont, but who cares? What does his bad work months later have to do with your pre Derby assessment? he obviously wasn't that affected by that work because he went on to win the Jim Dandy and Travers.

Again, I miss your point on AGS. He had some issues after the Tampa Bay Derby, was rushed by the connections to make the Derby and then was wisely given a break, then showed he was a good one. his Dwyer was a very good race, i don't care who it was against, he crushed the field.
BTW, if AGS was just rushed, if that was it, then how come all the other horses like Curlin and Hard Spun were able to run like they did in the Derby...

I don't know, but I don't think that Todd Pletcher rushes his Derby horses...
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