Zayat trouble

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I hear ya - and I thought it was pretty amusing how they changed plans every other day.

If he just wins the Illi Derby at odds on - isn't he in a 3-way scramble with Pyro and CJ for 2nd choice in the Derby? - and isn't he better suited to see out all three races in the series?

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So constantly changing your plan in an effort to baby the horse up to a 20 horse affair is a good plan of attack you think? Well it certainly worked. They might be on the outside looking in now.

Plans change at some point. I don't think they babied the horse at all. They felt the Illinois Derby was the most logically race. Why send him to New York to face War Pass, why send him to Oaklawn and face a 12 horse field. He raced in a Grade II that has produced some fine runners in the Derby. The plan didn't work out for them. It was a nice try and DofCork may get into the Derby. Time will only tell.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The fact that it didn't work means it was poor management. They went from the possible Derby favorite after the Rebel, to not even making it maybe a few weeks later. It was very poor management.

So you are saying in order to have good management, the plan you lay out has to work in the world of horse racing. Nothing in this business is 100% certain. Just because a plan didn't work, doesnt mean it was poor management. Correlation is not causation.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The fact that it didn't work means it was poor management. They went from the possible Derby favorite after the Rebel, to not even making it maybe a few weeks later. It was very poor management.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The plans changed because they changed them, plain and simple. They absolutely babied him. I don't expect a moron like yourself to comprehend it, but they did. And in the business world, a good try that doesn't work is also known as a failure. There is no reward for a good try. Success is what matters.

You seem to equate failure with a bad idea. It's as if the world of probability doesn't exist. It's like saying every horse that doesn't win the Derby is the victim of poor choices made along the way.

A good try that doesn't work may be known as a failure in the business world, but it's not necessarily scorned by successful investors or successful gamblers. The outcome is secondary to whether the logic was sound. If I'm confident the logic was sound, I'll do the exact same thing next time a similar situation comes around.

I understand you think that the logic was highly UNsound in the handling of Denis of Cork. But offering the outcome as proof that the plan was bad is faulty thinking, IMO.

--Dunbar

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not learning from mistakes is faulty thinking IMO.

IMO, the only mistake they made was not raising hell after the post position draw.

They let themselves become victims.

[Danzig]

i don't understand why the went to new york and then illinois. if they wanted to skip the rebel, fine. but he had a win at oaklawn, and the ark derby pays a million. even without a win at a track he already ran well on, he'd still get a much better check for hitting the board then he would anywhere else.
at any rate, it's done now.