Triple Crown Winner - a possibility?

[KirisClown]

The real question is how can he NOT win the Tripe Crown? This horse and his connections are the epitome of brilliance...

The savior of racing has been revealed.. his name is Mine That Bird...

[Danzig]

if anyone thinks the derby is a good indication of how these horses will do the rest of the year....let me bring up smarty jones' derby. a lot of people knocked the results, since only two horses ran a lick on that surface. this surface was in even worse shape.
you had one horse-ONE- who ran well. he inexplicably ran thirty-odd points better than his previous best, while everyone else was subpar. had that race been anything other than the derby, most of that field would have scratched. taking the results of that race as gospel would be a mistake imo. yes, horses can run well after maturing over the spring. but this particular win is more than that. the horse will have to win without the rest of the field clunking it up for me to think he's anything to watch for, bet on, next time out.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

A Triple CRown Winner, Are you serious? It will not happen, unless Pigs Fly

Is "Pigs Fly" running?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

A Triple CRown Winner, Are you serious? It will not happen, unless Pigs Fly

Would you not have said the same thing about MTB winning the Derby? I would've.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if anyone thinks the derby is a good indication of how these horses will do the rest of the year....let me bring up smarty jones' derby. a lot of people knocked the results, since only two horses ran a lick on that surface. this surface was in even worse shape.
you had one horse-ONE- who ran well. he inexplicably ran thirty-odd points better than his previous best, while everyone else was subpar. had that race been anything other than the derby, most of that field would have scratched. taking the results of that race as gospel would be a mistake imo. yes, horses can run well after maturing over the spring. but this particular win is more than that. the horse will have to win without the rest of the field clunking it up for me to think he's anything to watch for, bet on, next time out.

I know what you're saying, but didn't the place and show horses run speed figures that fit perfectly well with what they had done previously? In terms of BSFs, they are both mid-90s horses who ran in the mid-90s on Saturday.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

some people said the same thing about one day having a black president, and now we have Obama............along with Swine Flu.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

A Triple CRown Winner, Are you serious? It will not happen, unless Pigs Fly

well Pigs did fly on Saturday... so I guess anything is possible.

On a fast dry dirt track in two weeks i expect the Birdman to run 8th or so... but who knows... if it rains in two weeks and again three weeks after that... nevermind I still cant see it happening.

[HaloWishingwell]

I'm withholding any comments in case Mother Nature decides to bless "BIRD" with rain again.

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

some people said the same thing about one day having a black president, and now we have Obama............along with Swine Flu.

There ya go ... Swine flu ... that's pretty close to pigs flying.

[reese]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Triple Crown? Will he hit the board in the Preakness a better question?

No.

[Cannon Shell]

There is a far greater chance he never wins another race ever than the Triple Crown. As a matter of fact I think he wont win again this year. Anywhere.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I know what you're saying, but didn't the place and show horses run speed figures that fit perfectly well with what they had done previously? In terms of BSFs, they are both mid-90s horses who ran in the mid-90s on Saturday.

ok-if that's the case with 2-4, then i guess the other 15 were subpar? or most of them. i doubt atomic rain or flying private ran a subpar race. friesan fire was definitely not the same as he had been.

i just think the track had the most to do with what happened. different track, different results. like i said saturday just after the race, i wouldn't bet mine that bird with someone else's money next out.

[sdjcom]

they bought a gelding 2yo juvenile canadien champ on syn-track, took him to Sunland made him look bad then waited to get in derby knowing he would clean their clock there and in last two triple crown races, my opinion a set-up and would make a good novel. If MTB checks out clean on after race testing then it's a set-up. Horses don't run like that for know reason, the rest of the field ran the best they could on a horrible track. 1/19 horses handled the track. i don't believe it, and think some sh@# will come out of this.

[CSC]

From Beyer's column today.

Mine That Bird's win will be popularly regarded as the result of a once-in-a-lifetime perfect storm. Probably this opinion is correct; probably the gelding will never win another major race. However, I can remember that the other utterly implausible Derby winner, Canonero II, was regarded the same way. Two weeks later he won the Preakness and forced all of the doubters to revise their opinion that the Derby was a fluke.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

they bought a gelding 2yo juvenile canadien champ on syn-track, took him to Sunland made him look bad then waited to get in derby knowing he would clean their clock there and in last two triple crown races, my opinion a set-up and would make a good novel

If they knew he was so damn good they should have put Chantel back on board. Then they would have probably got 90-1 on him.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

If they knew he was so damn good they should have put Chantel back on board. Then they would have probably got 90-1 on him.

they did get more than 90-1 in the exotics, plus Borel is good from off the pace, @ CD. Most on here can't grasp the way this horse out ran 18 others so easy, i don't buy it for one second he just jumped up and torn up a terrible track like that. Iv'e watch the replay a few times and still don't believe it something smells here.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by CSC

From Beyer's column today.

Mine That Bird's win will be popularly regarded as the result of a once-in-a-lifetime perfect storm. Probably this opinion is correct; probably the gelding will never win another major race. However, I can remember that the other utterly implausible Derby winner, Canonero II, was regarded the same way. Two weeks later he won the Preakness and forced all of the doubters to revise their opinion that the Derby was a fluke.

I think alot of people thought WAR EMBLEM'S Derby win was a case of everyone falling asleep at the wheel and was a front running fluke. Winning The Preakness quieted the cries until The Belmont.

[letswastemoney]

It's scheduled to rain in Baltimore on Tuesday May 12 and Wednesday May 13. It will be interesting to see if that extends to Saturday of that week....

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenda...ink_undeclared

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

they bought a gelding 2yo juvenile canadien champ on syn-track, took him to Sunland made him look bad then waited to get in derby knowing he would clean their clock there and in last two triple crown races, my opinion a set-up and would make a good novel. If MTB checks out clean on after race testing then it's a set-up. Horses don't run like that for know reason, the rest of the field ran the best they could on a horrible track. 1/19 horses handled the track. i don't believe it, and think some sh@# will come out of this.

If thats the case and they knew this horse was that good then this is the greatest horse of all time. To think they had much confidence in this horse as the most freakesh horse they had ever seen to take him to Sunland stiff him twice knowing all along that all these scratches were going to happen that would allow him into the race, then know the stiff jobs wouldnt affect the horse negataively because he was that good? . Sounds too much

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

It's scheduled to rain in Baltimore on Tuesday May 12 and Wednesday May 13. It will be interesting to see if that extends to Saturday of that week....

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenda...ink_undeclared

Oh Boy, the weather updates are starting.