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Old 10-12-2009, 11:04 AM
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If anyone wants to go with Fatal Bullet early on they will pay the price, that is if Fatal Bullet goes to the lead at all. I don't necessarily think he needs it but rather it is his natural speed that puts him there, Dasilva reportedly didn't even use the stick(I'll have to watch the replay again) on Friday and though his odds aren't going to be near last year's odds, he's better than Gayago or Zensational IMO.
I thought E Z Dreamer ran a real big race in the Phoenix on Friday, especially in light of the fact that he was stepping up in class and had limited experience on synthetics. E Z Dreamer was pinned down inside, and Fatal Bullet was doing a pretty good job laying on him through the stretch. IMO, if their posts had been reversed, the result may have very well been reversed.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:12 AM
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I thought E Z Dreamer ran a real big race in the Phoenix on Friday, especially in light of the fact that he was stepping up in class and had limited experience on synthetics. E Z Dreamer was pinned down inside, and Fatal Bullet was doing a pretty good job laying on him through the stretch. IMO, if their posts had been reversed, the result may have very well been reversed.
I just watched the replay, agree that E Z Dreamer ran a really good race, but the one thing that struck me when watching Dasilva ride FB was the word "prep". Dasilva left something in the tank for SA and quite honestly I think this race was more impressive on second viewing than when I first saw it. FB did it on his own courage and I would expect him to run a bigger race at SA, I'm not sure where the value will be but I don't think either Gayago or Zensational at what might be underlaid odds will be great bets with what they might have to face, based on his race last yr if he didn't run into freak like M Lute, he would be running for back to back titles.
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:58 PM
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I just watched the replay, agree that E Z Dreamer ran a really good race, but the one thing that struck me when watching Dasilva ride FB was the word "prep". Dasilva left something in the tank for SA and quite honestly I think this race was more impressive on second viewing than when I first saw it. FB did it on his own courage and I would expect him to run a bigger race at SA, I'm not sure where the value will be but I don't think either Gayago or Zensational at what might be underlaid odds will be great bets with what they might have to face, based on his race last yr if he didn't run into freak like M Lute, he would be running for back to back titles.
You make it sound like the rider was standing in the saddle hand-riding. FB was in a drive just like every other horse in the race. He should be more fit 2nd off the layoff and obviously is OK with Santa Anita, those are reasons to bet him, not because he didn't have a lot taken out of him in his prep.

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Old 10-12-2009, 03:24 PM
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That rule was part of the tough new Canadian policies for flat and harness instituted last year.
A great rule at that.....
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Old 10-12-2009, 03:38 PM
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You make it sound like the rider was standing in the saddle hand-riding. FB was in a drive just like every other horse in the race. He should be more fit 2nd off the layoff and obviously is OK with Santa Anita, those are reasons to bet him, not because he didn't have a lot taken out of him in his prep.

NT
From what I saw it isn't likely a race where a regression is more likely rather than progression, the jock shook the reins inside 100 yards of the finish line where C Candyman couldn't make up the necessary difference. It was a very useful race in my opinion, but he certainly wasn't ridden to death to win it.
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:25 PM
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Spargo might do a very good job at what you described, but if he thought that Gayego was dead turning for home, then he missed that one.
Didn't think he was "dead" but wasn't sure he was going to make it either. The horse didn't appear to hit high gear until inside the 1/16 pole. He on in a hand ride.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:05 PM
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Really not a groupie... I just think over that track there is no chance anyone beats him. He is special over that surface.
Didn't he lose to Pomona Derby winner Quindici Man at Santa Anita?
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:58 PM
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I watched this race with Terry Spargo who call races and handicaps Dubai. He's a very good caller, adept at spotting horses that are moving well and even he thought Gayego was beaten turning for home. By mid-stretch he was changing his tune. This was a nice run and if Fatal Bullet takes it to Zensational early, the boys in blue might run over them all.
I can't believe anyone thought Gayego was beat turning for home. All he needed was a clear path and it looked pretty certain he'd find it. He was rolling and wasnt even being asked. Nice horse and a wonderful thing they discovered hes a sprinter after all this time.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:40 PM
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People actually think that race makes him a Sprint contender?
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:05 PM
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People actually think that race makes him a Sprint contender?

These people are Gayego crazy, I think Im the only one on here who does not like him.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:28 PM
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Stan James is listing Zensational at 11-8......I want no part of a speedball at that low a price on the plastic. At least Gayego's running style fits the track.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:32 PM
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Stan James is listing Zensational at 11-8......I want no part of a speedball at that low a price on the plastic. At least Gayego's running style fits the track.

I saw even money on Z at a few places.
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