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[Gander]

Let us not forget that racing was tops in the 70's and 80's well before the advent of twitter and facebook. Do you remember when people actually went to the racetrack because they had horses that were fun to root for, that actually ran and didnt duck each other?

[Buckpasser]

Originally Posted by Gander

Let us not forget that racing was tops in the 70's and 80's well before the advent of twitter and facebook. Do you remember when people actually went to the racetrack because they had horses that were fun to root for, that actually ran and didnt duck each other?

Regularity 25,000 during the week and 40-50,000 on weekends in New York. Those were the golden days, however time doesn't stand still unless you watch Mad Men. It's a new time and the industry has to change to the times.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Buckpasser

So in conclusion - there is no networking when it comes to anyone at the tracks and the betting public in this age of instant access. Is that right? Truly sad that the racing industry cannot be more accessible and therefore transparent. Not much has changed in the last 30 years I guess.

So because you dont like the amount of tweeting being done the industry is somehow less transparent? Virtually every track does this crap and most of their handicappers do too. What exactly are you looking for?

[Buckpasser]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So because you dont like the amount of tweeting being done the industry is somehow less transparent? Virtually every track does this crap and most of their handicappers do too. What exactly are you looking for?

An edge!!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gander

Let us not forget that racing was tops in the 70's and 80's well before the advent of twitter and facebook. Do you remember when people actually went to the racetrack because they had horses that were fun to root for, that actually ran and didnt duck each other?

I am pretty sure people went to the track back then to bet about 98% of the time. People are overly obsessed with only the top horses and their effect on "the game". Back then there was virtually no simulcasting so the only top horses you could closely follow were the ones who ran at your hometrack or on the televised races. The big days are not the problem. It is the other 350 days a year that need addressing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Buckpasser

An edge!!

So you aren't really interested in transparency after all.

[Buckpasser]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So you aren't really interested in transparency after all.

Transparency is for Obama and other politicians. Why do we enjoy the trials and tribulations of this sport? Everyone can answer for themselves. When I pick up a racing form I just don't go directly to the PPs I read about the entire form, breeding, legislative actions, racing personalities, casinos, etc. Why do we write on this forum and listen to ATR? Thus, when I ask a question about twitter I want more information, all that I can get my hands on, because at the end of the day it's all about money. Yea, the sport is regal and exciting and I am addicted to all facets of it, but I don't spend the time invested for my health.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I can't imagine how anyone can possibly gain a betting edge reading tweets from jockeys and trainers.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Buckpasser

Transparency is for Obama and other politicians. Why do we enjoy the trials and tribulations of this sport? Everyone can answer for themselves. When I pick up a racing form I just don't go directly to the PPs I read about the entire form, breeding, legislative actions, racing personalities, casinos, etc. Why do we write on this forum and listen to ATR? Thus, when I ask a question about twitter I want more information, all that I can get my hands on, because at the end of the day it's all about money. Yea, the sport is regal and exciting and I am addicted to all facets of it, but I don't spend the time invested for my health.

Well transparency certainly isnt one of obama's stronger areas but that is for another section.

I suppose that twitter can be useful for late changes, change in track/weather conditions, etc. But no trainer is going to offer op much useful information to the general public just as a football coach isnt going to post his gameplan for upcoming games on the net.

[eajinabi]

Desourmaux has a facebook page.

He added me as a friend because I am cool.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Buckpasser

Do any trainers or Jockeys twitter? Is it against the rules? How about owners? It would be a good think if they did, it would link the public closer to the players in the game. And it would make for good PR for the game.

Most of the racetracks have a person tweeting about their goings-on.

As for gaining an edge by following trainers/jockeys, here's a sample tweet for you:

"I like my chances today"

[Gander]

You guys see that one episode of Jockeys when Joe talamo goes suit shopping and buys a $5K = suit?

Somebody should tweet back to Joe Talamo and tell him when he goes to buy a suit, its probably a good idea to bring ample ways to make payment, rather than to rely on just 1 credit card.

First question, who doesnt carry more than 1 credit card? Either a debit card or additional credit cards?

Second question, why doesnt Joe Talamo have a bigger limit than $3K?
The guy makes twice that in a typical weekend.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gander

You guys see that one episode of Jockeys when Joe talamo goes suit shopping and buys a $5K = suit?

Somebody should tweet back to Joe Talamo and tell him when he goes to buy a suit, its probably a good idea to bring ample ways to make payment, rather than to rely on just 1 credit card.

First question, who doesnt carry more than 1 credit card? Either a debit card or additional credit cards?

Second question, why doesnt Joe Talamo have a bigger limit than $3K?
The guy makes twice that in a typical weekend.

If he shopped in the kids section the suit would have been a lot cheaper

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Desourmaux has a facebook page.

He added me as a friend because I am cool.

Does he update his status frequently to tell you the best horse he's ever ridden? Cuz he might find Twitter more useful for that.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Gander

You guys see that one episode of Jockeys when Joe talamo goes suit shopping and buys a $5K = suit?

Somebody should tweet back to Joe Talamo and tell him when he goes to buy a suit, its probably a good idea to bring ample ways to make payment, rather than to rely on just 1 credit card.

First question, who doesnt carry more than 1 credit card? Either a debit card or additional credit cards?

Second question, why doesnt Joe Talamo have a bigger limit than $3K?
The guy makes twice that in a typical weekend.

I've seen that episode. Unless they were just playing for the camera, it's mind boggling that a guy who makes as much money as Talamo didn't have enough money for that suit.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I've seen that episode. Unless they were just playing for the camera, it's mind boggling that a guy who makes as much money as Talamo didn't have enough money for that suit.

having read about the episode where solis watches a race in which he was supposed to ride, but his horse scratched...when in fact he picked up a mount, and was in the race, tells me all i need to know about how 'real' the show is.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Does he update his status frequently to tell you the best horse he's ever ridden? Cuz he might find Twitter more useful for that.

He does update his status frequently. He just recently posted that Summer Bird worked like a dream the other day.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I've seen that episode. Unless they were just playing for the camera, it's mind boggling that a guy who makes as much money as Talamo didn't have enough money for that suit.

Of course they are playing for the camera. What fun is it to watch someone go shopping without getting into some sort of predicament.

Its really dumb that they have Trevor Denman dub his own race calls for the show where he calls the name of the jockeys more than the names of the horses.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Of course they are playing for the camera. What fun is it to watch someone go shopping without getting into some sort of predicament.

Its really dumb that they have Trevor Denman dub his own race calls for the show where he calls the name of the jockeys more than the names of the horses.

What about Jimmy a Hat? Why do they always show him? What value does having a gambler on there add to the show?

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by Gander

What about Jimmy a Hat? Why do they always show him? What value does having a gambler on there add to the show?

Oh come on. A guy who calls himself Jimmy the Hat, has to be on the show, gambler or not. He is a character.

At least they did not put Jon White on the show --> would have been as fun as watching C-SPAN.