Would you vote for an Atheist President?

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by miraja2

If an atheist ever ran for president (and had an actual chance) I would not only probably vote for that candidate, I would also be tempted to quit my job and go volunteer for that candidate full time.

Of course, an atheist isn't going to be getting a major party nomination any time soon, because voters in this country require their presidents to believe that some guy who lived 2000 years ago had magic powers.

and he's been reincarnated as BTW.

[Nascar1966]

Pretty anyone would be better than the imbecile who is ruining our country.

[brianwspencer]

Absolutely, yes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Pretty anyone would be better than the imbecile who is ruining our country.

i didn't realize one person had so much power. other idiot presidents haven't ruined it, so i doubt that the naive guy in there now can either. he can give speeches about ruining it, but to actually accomplish something in that regard?? naaah.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Dude, the Muslims learned from the best butchers evah.

I absolutely guarantee that the followers of Jesus have slaughtered far more people than the followers of 'Mo'.

proving your siggie!.....great job,fool

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

proving your siggie!.....great job,fool

historically, he's correct. lately, maybe not. between crusades, pogroms, the inquisition, the ira, etc etc....

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

historically, he's correct. lately, maybe not. between crusades, pogroms, the inquisition, the ira, etc etc....

Nero killed 6 million Christians and burned Rome to the ground while blaming them for the fire. That's a pretty good head start.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Nero killed 6 million Christians and burned Rome to the ground while blaming them for the fire. That's a pretty good head start.

i wasn't aware that nero was a muslim...

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i wasn't aware that nero was a muslim...

Yeah..he "came out" just before he killed himself, muttering something about 72 virgins!

Just mentioned in conjunction with persecution,that's all

[Danzig]

and your numbers are way off. hitler killed six million. i doubt the entire roman population numbered six million when nero reigned. and from what i've read, they don't know how many christians died when nero ruled. but the christian sect was still very small at that time.

[Riot]

Christians are just Jews gone rogue, and Muslims view Jesus as a prophet.

There's alot to be said for Buddism, perhaps ....

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

historically, he's correct. lately, maybe not. between crusades, pogroms, the inquisition, the ira, etc etc....

Does the second world war not count as recent enough?

Despite the imbecilic claims by Christians in this country, Hitler was not an atheist, and was, in fact, a passionate Catholic. This isn't even debatable.

Thirty million or so Russians died because of him, let alone all the Jews and Gypsies, and other assorted undesirables.

I could go into more current atrocities performed by these groups, but it's a lot more complicated now that they have refined their techniques. I'll gladly point in the right direction, however, if you wish.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Nero killed 6 million Christians and burned Rome to the ground while blaming them for the fire. That's a pretty good head start.

Wow, I can't even come up with an appropriate insult for you. That post of yours is just so ridiculous.

However.

I'd certainly like to know how you came up with six million!

Did you know, by the way, that there is absolutely no actual proof that Romans persecuted early Christians? All the 'early' writings of such nonsense has been proven to be forgeries done at a much, much later date.

Did you also know that the Romans were remarkably tolerant of their peoples religious beliefs?

Oh yeah, duh, of course you didn't.

[Riot]

Oh, why not hijack this thread, but my apologies if anyone cares .... <g>

You mention Hitler. It infuriates me the way people casually compare anything to Hitler (not you) I've met tattooed holocaust survivors when I was younger, and it's just not right to insult and demean that horror that way. But the demonstrators that compared Bush to Hitler, now Obama to Hitler, etc. - what a bunch of losers.

Segue - Glenn Beck compares Obama to Hitler all the time, accused Obama's interest in restoring volunteerism (Peace Corp, anyone?) to "indoctrination youth camps", a threat to our security, etc.

But I see that Glenn Beck is going to start holding "education camps" for his followers. And that is exactly what he is calling them.

Can he really, really not see the hypocrite in the mirror?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

Christians are just Jews gone rogue, and Muslims view Jesus as a prophet.

There's alot to be said for Buddism, perhaps ....

That's closer to the truth than most people think.

It's more like though that Christians are just Romans gone rogue and that some very clever Italians a long time ago realized their empire could not continue on forever in it's current (at that time) form, and that something had to be done to continue the empire for as long as possible.

That was one mighty strong 'omen' Constantine received from God!!!!! That one omen changed things forever.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, why not hijack this thread, but my apologies if anyone cares .... <g>

You mention Hitler. It infuriates me the way people casually compare anything to Hitler (not you) I've met tattooed holocaust survivors when I was younger, and it's just not right to insult and demean that horror that way. But the demonstrators that compared Bush to Hitler, now Obama to Hitler, etc. - what a bunch of losers.

Segue - Glenn Beck compares Obama to Hitler all the time, accused Obama's interest in restoring volunteerism (Peace Corp, anyone?) to "indoctrination youth camps", a threat to our security, etc.

But I see that Glenn Beck is going to start holding "education camps" for his followers. And that is exactly what he is calling them.

Can he really, really not see the hypocrite in the mirror?

More times than I can count, people and/or groups in a position of power use the same techniques of those that they lambaste to achieve their ends. It's as if they are projecting their crap onto other people.

I understand too what you say about Hitler and that makes sense, however, some day when you have a lot of time and want to learn something really interesting, research the history of IG Farben and what influences they've had upon our modern world, especially after they were disbanded/dismantled.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It's more like though that Christians are just Romans gone rogue and that some very clever Italians a long time ago realized their empire could not continue on forever in it's current (at that time) form, and that something had to be done to continue the empire for as long as possible.

That was one mighty strong 'omen' Constantine received from God!!!!! That one omen changed things forever.

Yeah, what he ^^ said

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Does the second world war not count as recent enough?

Despite the imbecilic claims by Christians in this country, Hitler was not an atheist, and was, in fact, a passionate Catholic. This isn't even debatable.

Thirty million or so Russians died because of him, let alone all the Jews and Gypsies, and other assorted undesirables.

I could go into more current atrocities performed by these groups, but it's a lot more complicated now that they have refined their techniques. I'll gladly point in the right direction, however, if you wish.

er, i was on your side. and i mean recently as in the last few years, where it's been only muslims getting the press for their atrocities.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's closer to the truth than most people think.

It's more like though that Christians are just Romans gone rogue and that some very clever Italians a long time ago realized their empire could not continue on forever in it's current (at that time) form, and that something had to be done to continue the empire for as long as possible.

That was one mighty strong 'omen' Constantine received from God!!!!! That one omen changed things forever.

the omen worked since constantine won. he then could control what we now call history. he was the victor, to the victor goes the spoils. and of course christians back when were jewish followers of jesus-something christians today tend to forget. when they preach jewish hatred, they forget the person they supposedly follow was jewish.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, why not hijack this thread, but my apologies if anyone cares .... <g>

You mention Hitler. It infuriates me the way people casually compare anything to Hitler (not you) I've met tattooed holocaust survivors when I was younger, and it's just not right to insult and demean that horror that way. But the demonstrators that compared Bush to Hitler, now Obama to Hitler, etc. - what a bunch of losers.

Segue - Glenn Beck compares Obama to Hitler all the time, accused Obama's interest in restoring volunteerism (Peace Corp, anyone?) to "indoctrination youth camps", a threat to our security, etc.

But I see that Glenn Beck is going to start holding "education camps" for his followers. And that is exactly what he is calling them.

Can he really, really not see the hypocrite in the mirror?

that all drives me nuts as well-especially when rush uses the term 'feminazis'.