7/17-18 (HOL): A Gleam H. & Swaps S. (G2's); Sunset H. (G3)

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Is it not safe to say that he just needed the race and IMO it was the perfect prep. Excited to see him face his elders in the Pacific Classic next.

That would not be my take on it. It's not as if he had been off for 6 months. He just ran in the Ky Derby 10 weeks ago. I don't think he needed this race. If anything, I think he needed more time off. Even before this race, they said that the trip to Kentucky really threw this horse for a loop. I didn't like the way he ran at all yesterday. I highly doubt he runs in the Pacific Classic. The Pacific Classic would have been an option if this horse would have won impressively yesterday. But as poorly as he ran yesteday, I would be extremely surprised to see him in the Pacific Classic.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That would not be my take on it. It's not as if he had been off for 6 months. He just ran in the Ky Derby 10 weeks ago. I don't think he needed this race. If anything, I think he needed more time off. Even before this race, they said that the trip to Kentucky really threw this horse for a loop. I didn't like the way he ran at all yesterday. I highly doubt he runs in the Pacific Classic. The Pacific Classic would have been an option if this horse would have won impressively yesterday. But as poorly as he ran yesteday, I would be extremely surprised to see him in the Pacific Classic.

Just guessing, but maybe they'll regroup in the Grade 3 El Cajon unless they try the Del Mar Derby series.

Meanwhile, why didn't Summer Movie, who's two lifetime wins came on turf, wait for the Oceanside on Wednesday? Hollywood's racing secretary must have talked a good game to keep him in there. I guess he ran well enough to justify it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

He won the SA Derby (which is 1 1/8 miles) by 8 lengths. He gets beat yesterday when he obviously didn't fire and you think that proves that he can't go 1 1/8 miles?

Same with Caracortado. He was great in his first two routes, and then struggled to get two turns. That was an easy group yesterday. He should of romped. Yea, the trip to Kentucky knocked him on his ass. It was the 1st time he had to take pressure going two turns. Now he couldn't get home going 2 turns against Grade 3 quality horses. That's two races in a row he's giving ground in the stretch going 2 turns. Maybe he'll like the poly, or find his lungs at Anita. He already gave the horse the best cheater drugs he could get away with. The guy wanted to win a triple crown race in the worst way. He had to get there, and he did. Then, had to race clean in the Derby (fail.) Not like he has another freshen up drug left to try. He either reverts (on his own now) to liking the heavy synthetics, or he'll sprint. This trainer (and his boy Larry) are cheaters. When his 3 year olds had to run clean (in the Derby,) it was another fail in a Big National Race. That supertesting doesn't agree with him. Sadler, Mitchell, n' O'neil are the cheating Moe, Larry, Curly guys out here.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Same with Caracortado. He was great in his first two routes, and then struggled to get two turns. That was an easy group yesterday. He should of romped. Yea, the trip to Kentucky knocked him on his ass. It was the 1st time he had to take pressure going two turns. Now he couldn't get home going 2 turns against Grade 3 quality horses. That's two races in a row he's giving ground in the stretch going 2 turns. Maybe he'll like the poly, or find his lungs at Anita. He already gave the horse the best cheater drugs he could get away with. The guy wanted to win a triple crown race in the worst way. He had to get there, and he did. Then, had to race clean in the Derby (fail.) Not like he has another freshen up drug left to try. He either reverts (on his own now) to liking the heavy synthetics, or he'll sprint. This trainer (and his boy Larry) are cheaters. When his 3 year olds had to run clean (in the Derby,) it was another fail in a Big National Race. That supertesting doesn't agree with him. Sadler, Mitchell, n' O'neil are the cheating Moe, Larry, Curly guys out here.

I agree with you about Caracortado having distance limitations. He is most effective up to 1 1/16 miles. He's really up against it when he tries to go further than that.