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Old 07-16-2010, 10:22 PM
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Are you turning into FatMan? You knock the most likely winner, but dont give a pick or opinion. Who do you like? I give my opinion and if its wrong, its wrong, but its out there. IMO its a lot easier to say 1 horse is going to lose, then to tout the winner. What your doing here, what FatMan does all the time and what CJ did last weekend with Rail Trip.
So, when I talked your silly ass off of ANDINA last week, I was also supposed to discuss who I thought the winner of the race was? It wasn't enough trying to get you to understand why she was a PLUG? ha ha ha (And I was also nice enough to throw you a 3:1 winner.)

You're also on record with an opinion in the Oliver at IND. You liked the Pletcher plug that got put up to 2nd as a result of a DQ. The DQd horse cut off another horse that would've certainly finished ahead of your horse. So you got real ****in' lucky. Your response: "UGHHHHH, CLOSE THOUGH"
Oh, btw, I ventured an 'opinion' in that race: the $41 winner.

And you expect comprehensive discussion of races from me?

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UGHHHHH, CLOSE THOUGH

I'm still laughing.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:24 PM
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So, when I talked your silly ass off of ANDINA last week, I was also supposed to discuss who I thought the winner of the race was? It wasn't enough trying to get you to understand why she was a PLUG? ha ha ha (And I was also nice enough to throw you a 3:1 winner.)

You're also on record with an opinion in the Oliver at IND. You liked the Pletcher plug that got put up to 2nd as a result of a DQ. The DQd horse cut off another horse that would've certainly finished ahead of your horse. So you got real ****in' lucky. Your response: "UGHHHHH, CLOSE THOUGH"
Oh, btw, I ventured an 'opinion' in that race: the $41 winner.

And you expect comprehensive discussion of races from me?

ha ha ha



UGHHHHH, CLOSE THOUGH

I'm still laughing.
You know I respect your opinion, glad you got all this off your chest though.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:39 PM
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You know I respect your opinion, glad you got all this off your chest though.
Then I'm glad, as well.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:35 PM
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Wow, pg has gone from being a serling lover, to a drugS lover, now he's a fat man lover.

What's next? Coach?
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:36 PM
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I think he's going to throw a curveball next and go after either Danzig or Sighty.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:48 PM
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I think he's going to throw a curveball next and go after either Danzig or Sighty.
Shut up.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:17 AM
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Shut up.
What?

All this talk of Scav, well, it makes me think maybe PG will stop preying on guys here!
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:27 AM
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Though he may have distance limitations, I still like Asphalt in the Am Derby. I thought he ran a very nice at CD.

The guy on Against the Odds on HRTV also liked Mint Chip. The price is going to be terrific but I can't seem to determine why he did no running in either of those two turf races at CD.

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I had the misfortune of betting him in both of those races. I don't know what exactly what happened the 2nd time, but in his 1st run, Borel tried to save a little ground on the final turn and ended up blasting the horse on his outside, then drifted in badly early stretch, and after that was not perserved with.
He won his return race at Kee, then had no chance last time at Woodbine due to race dynamics. He's going to need to move forward to compete here, but there is no obvious reason why he shouldn't. He seems to be a tough horse to steer, but Graham knows him well.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:28 AM
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In my mind, Rainbow View is very much like Fantasia in that she has plenty of talent but just doesnt always show it on the racecourse. I'd hate to rely on her as a single..
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:09 AM
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In my mind, Rainbow View is very much like Fantasia in that she has plenty of talent but just doesnt always show it on the racecourse. I'd hate to rely on her as a single..
There is only two horses that can win that race, Tuscan Evening or Rainbow View....Because Tuscan Evening is finally gonna see pace on a non favoring front end surface, Rainbow View is gonna get a perfect trip. She isn't a 8f or 8.5 filly, needs distance and gets it today.

I think McAnally's horse is gonna run a big race also.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:54 PM
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There is only two horses that can win that race, Tuscan Evening or Rainbow View....Because Tuscan Evening is finally gonna see pace on a non favoring front end surface, Rainbow View is gonna get a perfect trip. She isn't a 8f or 8.5 filly, needs distance and gets it today.

I think McAnally's horse is gonna run a big race also.
Scavs, I'll take a shot with Hot Cha Cha, she may be the only one with any value in here and she really can't be taken too lightly. TE and RV will be pounded into submission IMO.
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:15 PM
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Scavs, I'll take a shot with Hot Cha Cha, she may be the only one with any value in here and she really can't be taken too lightly. TE and RV will be pounded into submission IMO.
Don't like her at all. Think she is much better with give in the ground and it is as firm as firm gets right now here in Chicago. Also think she has caught some questionable fields in the past.

We'll see
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Old 07-17-2010, 02:47 PM
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Free fighter and giant oak for me in the handicap box 358-10
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:25 PM
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WO R8:

#4, Sharp Secretary, win @ >= 5:1

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Old 07-17-2010, 04:38 PM
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Tuscan evening is pretty damn impressive...
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:41 PM
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Tuscan evening is pretty damn impressive...
No doubt she is a very good horse but these f'n jocks are just retarded. Let a Grade 1 filly barely get out of gallop the first 8 furlongs.

Let me also say that I am pretty happy that she won today because I won't play her next time if he ships her back to California and trains her there. If she stays here she will be pretty tough in the Bev D
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:00 PM
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Albarado doesn't show up for a 200k stakes or the 150k stakes and the public is betting this horse. God help them.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:04 PM
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Hard to believe Mint Chip is 11:1 and the 7 is 7:5.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:06 PM
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Don't like her at all. Think she is much better with give in the ground and it is as firm as firm gets right now here in Chicago. Also think she has caught some questionable fields in the past.

We'll see
Tuscan Evening was too tough today, no excuses for Hot Cha Cha, thought 7/2 was fair but when you leave a quality animal alone on the front like that, you may as well gift wrap and hand it to her before the gates open.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:08 PM
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Hard to believe Mint Chip is 11:1 and the 7 is 7:5.
You know, I kinda hope the 7 gallops today, I have minor minor investments today where Million Day, if he wins, he will be favored in the Secretariat, and he has NO CHANCE of getting 10 furlongs. We'll see
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