Goldikova horse of the Year?

[smartbid09]

Nothing but you don't have to gloat about her only winning one 10 furlong race.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by smartbid09

Nothing but you don't have to gloat about her only winning one 10 furlong race.

Jesus...look at who I was responding to and why I responded that way.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I know that she can win it and God knows I wish Zenyatta would get some special award but no... Blame is HOY.

They should create a HOL3Y and give her a pretty trophy and some chocolates.

[10 pnt move up]

I am assuming Proviso will be champion fm turf horse based on her four grade 1 wins........or does one win trump the entire season in north america?

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I am assuming Proviso will be champion fm turf horse based on her four grade 1 wins........or does one win trump the entire season in north america?

I may be on a different page to everyone regarding how the horse of the year works, but who was the best filly or mare to run on turf this year in North America? It certainly wasnt Proviso!!

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I am assuming Proviso will be champion fm turf horse based on her four grade 1 wins........or does one win trump the entire season in north america?

Goldikova got the Eclipse last year with just the 1 race in North America. This year she got 5 G1s including the BC Mile, a G1 placing, and she beat Proviso. No way does anybody else get Champion Female Turf Horse, especially not with Goldikova getting that 3rd BC race. The acceleration she has is just crazy impressive.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Goldikova got the Eclipse last year with just the 1 race in North America. This year she got 5 G1s including the BC Mile, a G1 placing, and she beat Proviso. No way does anybody else get Champion Female Turf Horse, especially not with Goldikova getting that 3rd BC race. The acceleration she has is just crazy impressive.

Your going to have to educate me on the north american races other than the Mile.

Last year there was not a filly like Proviso who ran off 4 straight grade 1's at all the prestigious middle distance races at 4 tracks in tis country and beat males at Santa Anita.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Your going to have to educate me on the north american races other than the Mile.

Last year there was not a filly like Proviso who ran off 4 straight grade 1's at all the prestigious middle distance races at 4 tracks in tis country and beat males at Santa Anita.

I agree with you....and I love Goldikova and don't have a great affinity for Proviso.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree with you....and I love Goldikova and don't have a great affinity for Proviso.

I love the Prince.....I just think its an accomplishment based award and not based one one race. Where have I heard that before?

The bigger question is Champ turf horse...its not like Gio Ponti did much winning and I guess maybe there is another race like the Hollywood Turf Cup out there for Champs Pegasus to try and win but it was a horrid division.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I love the Prince.....I just think its an accomplishment based award and not based one one race. Where have I heard that before?

The bigger question is Champ turf horse...its not like Gio Ponti did much winning and I guess maybe there is another race like the Hollywood Turf Cup out there for Champs Pegasus to try and win but it was a horrid division.

How about Paddy O'Prado? I know he won restricted races, but so have HOY winners, and you could argue he has the best overall turf resume among males.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

How about Paddy O'Prado? I know he won restricted races, but so have HOY winners, and you could argue he has the best overall turf resume among males.

I have no problem with him winning, its just historical perspective that makes it very messed up.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I love the Prince.....I just think its an accomplishment based award and not based one one race. Where have I heard that before?

The bigger question is Champ turf horse...its not like Gio Ponti did much winning and I guess maybe there is another race like the Hollywood Turf Cup out there for Champs Pegasus to try and win but it was a horrid division.

Winchester deserves it over POP.

[Indian Charlie]

The Usual QT.

Oh, that's right, his trainer prevented that.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The Usual QT.

Oh, that's right, his trainer prevented that.

Hello Dude, Bro....
Whats a wop? Whats a pipstah?
Love,
Your dude, Bro

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Hello Dude, Bro....
Whats a wop?
Love,
Your dude, Bro

You were my next guess.

A wop is a derogatory term for an Italian American. It means without papers. I'm not sure why that is insulting, as who wants to have papers like some fancy dog?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You were my next guess.

A wop is a derogatory term for an Italian American. It means without papers. I'm not sure why that is insulting, as who wants to have papers like some fancy dog?

My father has papers.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

My father has papers.

Yeah? What breed is he?

I'm guessing he's a Yorkie.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah? What breed is he?

I'm guessing he's a Yorkie.

I have no clue, he was born in Italy... Came over via boat. Has stamps on his arm to prove it.
Answer my pm, I cant wait any longer... The suspense is torture.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I know facts and bets are your kryptonite, but Goldikova is a group 1 winner going 9 furlongs and was beaten 4 lengths by Zarkava going 1 5/16ths. She's better at a mile, but it's not as though she can't go a little farther.

Another fact...Zenyatta has won ONE 10 furlong race.

lol

another tidbit of irony that occurred to me....back when another horse was making her first start at 10f, and came in second, we heard all about how zenyatta would do at the same distance on the same surface.

lol both get a second their one time on dirt at 10f. you just can't make up stuff like that.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Your going to have to educate me on the north american races other than the Mile.

Last year there was not a filly like Proviso who ran off 4 straight grade 1's at all the prestigious middle distance races at 4 tracks in tis country and beat males at Santa Anita.

Well can someone please education me on the G1 races Benny the Bull ran in North America when he got the Sprint Eclipse over Midnight Lute, winner of that year's BC Sprint? Oh, that's right, there were none. Not even a G3 win in this country. ML would've won the G1 Pat O'Brien too if not for the trouble with the gate causing him to break badly, but whatever.

Proviso didn't lose by a neck or a half a length. She was 7th to the impressive returning champ. Good luck to anybody getting the Eclipse over Goldi.