Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Dee Tee Stables
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 02-17-2011, 12:25 PM
pgiaco's Avatar
pgiaco pgiaco is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brewster, NY
Posts: 1,028
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightning752 View Post
I'm not an owner with you, but I root hard for your horses.

However, to blame a veteran respected jockey for a 40-1 shot coming in last in the way that you did was a bit unfair.

Did he explain himself poorly, or did something get lost in translation, perhaps either of both of those is possible -- but to put the performance of the horse primarily on C.C. was not up to your usual high level of class.

Again, excuse me if this is none of my business.
I should let Steve handle this, but.... I don't think anyone is blaming Chuck for her finish position. What is maddening is the non effort on his part.
__________________
You have a million dollar set of legs and a five cent fart for a brain.-Herb Brooks
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-17-2011, 12:55 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,291
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightning752 View Post
I'm not an owner with you, but I root hard for your horses.

However, to blame a veteran respected jockey for a 40-1 shot coming in last in the way that you did was a bit unfair.

Did he explain himself poorly, or did something get lost in translation, perhaps either of both of those is possible -- but to put the performance of the horse primarily on C.C. was not up to your usual high level of class.

Again, excuse me if this is none of my business.
Appreciate the feedback and the support. I'll respectfully disagree in that I don't believe my comments were unduly harsh or unfair in regards to Lopez' 'performance' Wednesday. The fact that these kinds of 'decisions' are not so out-of-the-blue by Chucky makes it tough to be overly understanding of the rider prerogative in this case. While Ausable may have been the longest price in the field, January 23rd she was beaten a whopping 3 lengths for the 2nd-4th photo that included Freuds and All Quiet. Suddenly Thursday she's 25 lengths worse than those 2? Chucky chose not to compete with her Thursday, and it's one reason that while he is a veteran rider, his decision making is sometimes called into question. And I'm hardly the first person to point this out.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-17-2011, 01:31 PM
Lightning752 Lightning752 is offline
Weanling
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4
Default If that is the case

Is your decision to give him the mount questionable as well?

The way I look at it you can do something about the situation, not ride him again, and if you are unsatisfied with a ride I'm all for that. Jockeys get mounts and keep mounts based mostly on performance.

I didn't think it was necessary to take a shot at him here. But because this is mostly a forum for the owners, and you were venting, I'll man up and say my response was over the top.

Good luck with this one and Lloyd next time.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-17-2011, 01:42 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,291
Default

Again, I appreciate the thoughts. In terms of the call, Lopez' good try last time is what made Wednesday so stupifying. Chucky was put on because we were looking to get her back into races earlier after the blinker try failed. And she responded really well to him last month. And further, he liked her a lot that day and was eager to ride back! Then he rides her 100 yards, stands up on her and says after, "When she didn't get the lead I figured I'd save her for next time." Yeesh... He won't be back.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 02-18-2011, 06:43 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept View Post
Again, I appreciate the thoughts. In terms of the call, Lopez' good try last time is what made Wednesday so stupifying. Chucky was put on because we were looking to get her back into races earlier after the blinker try failed. And she responded really well to him last month. And further, he liked her a lot that day and was eager to ride back! Then he rides her 100 yards, stands up on her and says after, "When she didn't get the lead I figured I'd save her for next time." Yeesh... He won't be back.
Hey you could have gotten the ole Cheat C "dwelt at the gate" act? Consider yourself lucky? As long as she improves a little she will be fine in races like you mentioned.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.