Wisconsin election vote fraud investigation

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The Wisconsin Grocers Association is warning its members to be on the lookout for opponents of Gov. Scott Walker who are planning to deface some products in grocery stores on May 1.

Walker opponents have urged consumers to boycott companies that have donated to the governor's campaign. The Journal Sentinel says there's a current effort to expand the boycott nationally by placing stickers on products in grocery stores. Among the targeted products are Johnsonville brats, AngelSoft toilet paper, Sargento cheese and Coors beer.

The grocers group has created a sign for stores to post alerting people that placing stickers on products in stores is illegal.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...lker-stickers/

Got half my shopping list done! Prefer Miller Lite but Colorado here I come.

Not sure why they picked Coors and not all Miller products since MillerCoors is one company. I would prefer if these people think life is so bad here to just get the heck out of our state. Since the merger of Miller and Coors I have seen a substantial amount of high paying jobs move to WI, which in turn has helped our local economy. I guess we should be buying Tsingtao instead of Miller or Coors because that would be supporting a company and country that better reflects the beliefs of these morons.

[Riot]

Recount for Supreme Court, Prosser (winner) challenged by Kloppenburg under way. Have been some vote changes a few hundred this way and that so far, to be expected.

http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/recount

PDF file there under Recount Daily Totals, listing original votes in each precinct, and recounted vote total.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Recount for Supreme Court, Prosser (winner) challenged by Kloppenburg under way. Have been some vote changes a few hundred this way and that so far, to be expected.

http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/recount

PDF file there under Recount Daily Totals, listing original votes in each precinct, and recounted vote total.

FYI Kloppenburg claimed victory with 200 some votes and is challenging the 7000 vote number she lost by. My guess is she grew up playing in a soccer league thats games always ended in ties.

[Danzig]

i hope no one boycotts angel soft tissue. a lot of people work at gp, including my husband...we aren't responsible for a couple of rich owners' politics.
boycotts always hit the employees, not the billionaires who are the target.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i hope no one boycotts angel soft tissue. a lot of people work at gp, including my husband...we aren't responsible for a couple of rich owners' politics.
boycotts always hit the employees, not the billionaires who are the target.

No worries. This could not have been a better advertisement for the product. Many more will try it (like me) and become customers than will boycott it, trust me. Besides don't these people use bark or brown recylcled paper anyway?


And brats please? Mind has well boycotted dear hunting licenses and fishing poles.

[Danzig]

johnsonville is good stuff; we pick up some of their sausages every grocery trip. guess i need to start buying sargento cheese!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

FYI Kloppenburg claimed victory with 200 some votes and is challenging the 7000 vote number she lost by. My guess is she grew up playing in a soccer league thats games always ended in ties.

If only you ever read a newspaper, or an internet news story Then you'd know why she filed the recount.

Speaking of recalls, the Dems have another GOP on the recall ballot. The GOP doesn't seem to be able to get any more Dems (they failed the last three they tried to get sigs for)

Today, the Committee to Recall Robert Cowles submitted over 25,000 signatures -- more than the required 15,960 -- to the state’s Government Accountability Board, becoming the ninth recall drive of state senators the board is reviewing that could eventually trigger a recall election. Of the nine, six target Republican state senators like Cowles, and three target Democratic state senators.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

If only you ever read a newspaper, or an internet news story Then you'd know why she filed the recount

Dog and Pony Show. Again she declared victory based on 200 votes and we are recounting after a 7,000 vote victory.

BTW what the local papers and comments are saying (in Wisconsin not Huffington)


Given the vote margin, should the taxpayers being paying for the state Supreme court recount?



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reader COMMENTS noretreat
Apr 29, 2011 at 7:18 a.m.
Suggest removal The law should be changed that you can ask for the recount within that margin, but if you lose your paying for it.

There is no real resaon for this recount and the Klop. team wouldnt have bothered if their own money was at risk.
donnaw
Apr 29, 2011 at 6:45 a.m.
Suggest removal It's funny, the people that are for the recount are the same ones that thought it was okay for the 14 to run away to Illinois rather than do their jobs. And for the protestors to use fake doctor excuses.
partarican1
Apr 28, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.
Suggest removal it is allowable under the law, so why should she not have the right to a recount?
BornInWiscosnin
Apr 27, 2011 at 8:53 p.m.
Suggest removal This question makes it sound like this is money out of our pockets. I think most of the "cost" is the salary of people who will be doing the recount, but who would be getting that salary anyway. We taxpayers have already paid for their services. Perhaps a better question would be, do we want them to do the recount or some other whatever-it-might-be thing they would do instead? I mean no disrespect whatsoever for those people and their important and honorable jobs.
kaysbrew
Apr 27, 2011 at 1:30 p.m.
Suggest removal No count with that big of a margin has ever been reversed in Wisconsin or any other state. This may be within the law but doesn't mean you need to abuse the taxpayers for it.

http://wclo.com/polls/2011/apr/taxpa...count/results/

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Speaking of recalls, the Dems have another GOP on the recall ballot. The GOP doesn't seem to be able to get any more Dems (they failed the last three they tried to get sigs for)

Many republicans, at least in my area, haven't returned from their winter homes yet. They must be harder to find since they all don't group together like dems do. Talking WI not the country.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Many republicans, at least in my area, haven't returned from their winter homes yet. They must be harder to find since they all don't group together like dems do. Talking WI not the country.

Dates for recall are past. Can't be done.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Dates for recall are past. Can't be done.

The results of the Dems actions won't only be reflected by recalls. There is a super secret republican boycott going on that I'll let you in on. Numerous well-to-do folks have finally had it, pulled the trigger, and bought FL homes/condos (available now for dimes on the dollar) as winter retreats. Six months and one day a year allows them to file as FL residents saving 6.5%/year and thus no longer have a part in supporting the bloated government and its unions. When you're talking $300K/year of tax liabilities it's $19,500/year in tax saved or $1,625/month. A free house/condo for just moving! Figure in these properties will likely double, triple or go even higher than that in the next 30 years they are turning a $585,000.00 tax payment into a $1.7 million profit a 2 and a quarter million dollar difference. All by simply following the tax laws. And so as to not bum you out too much they will still support the local community and education in the form of property taxes and will now be pitching in for the education of kids in Marco Island, Long Boat Key and other beautiful spots. They can also say goodbye to winter heating bills though some of that will be offset by air conditioning on real hot days.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The results of the Dems actions won't only be reflected by recalls. There is a super secret republican boycott going on that I'll let you in on. Numerous well-to-do folks have finally had it, pulled the trigger, and bought FL homes/condos (available now for dimes on the dollar) as winter retreats. Six months and one day a year allows them to file as FL residents saving 6.5%/year and thus no longer have a part in supporting the bloated government and its unions. When you're talking $300K/year of tax liabilities it's $19,500/year in tax saved or $1,625/month. A free house/condo for just moving! Figure in these properties will likely double, triple or go even higher than that in the next 30 years they are turning a $585,000.00 tax payment into a $1.7 million profit a 2 and a quarter million dollar difference. All by simply following the tax laws. And so as to not bum you out too much they will still support the local community and education in the form of property taxes and will now be pitching in for the education of kids in Marco Island, Long Boat Key and other beautiful spots. They can also say goodbye to winter heating bills though some of that will be offset by air conditioning on real hot days.

I have a lot in Marco, purchased in 1988, you can buy And before you try and predict the Florida real estate market futures, I suggest you google "Medicare fraud" and "Rick Scott".

Oh, Dell, you make me laugh.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have a lot in Marco, purchased in 1988,
Oh, Dell, you make me laugh.

They are not buying swamp and or lots. LOL

And I'm laughing!!!

[wiphan]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/121176134.html

You should hear the tape.

[wiphan]

better yet, here is the link for the tape and transcript

http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charlie...74.html?blog=y

[Riot]

Well, the Democrats are challenging the dead people on the GOP petitions completed by the outsiders from Colorado hired by the GOP to fill them out, and the Republicans can challenge any signatures on the Dem petitions.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, the Democrats are challenging the dead people on the GOP petitions completed by the outsiders from Colorado hired by the GOP to fill them out, and the Republicans can challenge any signatures on the Dem petitions.

Any wrong signatures should be excluded and if there are signatures of dead people on the recall petitions they should be challenged.

However you have to agree the actions by this professor who specifically tells his students to illegally sign a petition when they don't live in the district and to make sure they use their "campus address" is just wrong. As a person with power over his students his actions are ridiculous. I wonder how many other professors or teachers did the same...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Any wrong signatures should be excluded and if there are signatures of dead people on the recall petitions they should be challenged.

However you have to agree the actions by this professor who specifically tells his students to illegally sign a petition when they don't live in the district and to make sure they use their "campus address" is just wrong. As a person with power over his students his actions are ridiculous. I wonder how many other professors or teachers did the same...

If a student's campus address is their legal address, it's legal to sign. If it isn't, yes, it should be thrown out.

As an aside, I'm very concerned about the current Republican nationwide push to change current voting laws in order to disinfranchise students from voting on campus before 2012.

No, I agree it's questionable to have that in a classroom (due to the professors power) just as it is to have recall petitions going around at a workplace via a supervisor.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

If a student's campus address is their legal address, it's legal to sign. If it isn't, yes, it should be thrown out.

As an aside, I'm very concerned about the current Republican nationwide push to change current voting laws in order to disinfranchise students from voting on campus before 2012.

No, I agree it's questionable to have that in a classroom (due to the professors power) just as it is to have recall petitions going around at a workplace via a supervisor.

Did you listen or read the transcript? See below and tell me what is questionable?

STUDENT: I live in Menasha and from what I understand Senator Ellis is who, is representing [inaudible].

PROFESSOR: Um, I think you can sign it and if it doesn't, if you are in that district then your signature just won't count.

Um, if you sign this you should sign this you should sign it uh, with uh, um your campus address. You know like if you, instead of your parents' address sign it with the address here on campus.
Um, I’m not asking you to do it you're not required to do this, it's a free country, you can sign it or not sign it.

Um, I'd prefer to have people do it outside cause that way, you know it's not like I'm watching who's signing and who's not signing.

Um...and so if you want to you can go outside and sign it, if you don’t want to then well just, just stay in class.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Did you listen or read the transcript? See below and tell me what is questionable?

STUDENT: I live in Menasha and from what I understand Senator Ellis is who, is representing [inaudible].

PROFESSOR: Um, I think you can sign it and if it doesn't, if you are in that district then your signature just won't count.

Um, if you sign this you should sign this you should sign it uh, with uh, um your campus address. You know like if you, instead of your parents' address sign it with the address here on campus.
Um, I’m not asking you to do it you're not required to do this, it's a free country, you can sign it or not sign it.

Um, I'd prefer to have people do it outside cause that way, you know it's not like I'm watching who's signing and who's not signing.

Um...and so if you want to you can go outside and sign it, if you don’t want to then well just, just stay in class.

Did you miss the part where I already said the professor shouldn't have done that in the classroom?