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Old 04-25-2012, 09:38 PM
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cows have been able to milk themselves for quite some time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7iA4sMpF8
so have politicians...
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:48 PM
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Seriously? The government has removed the deliberate laxity that long enabled children of 8-14 to get nicotine poisoning working the stripping shed, or to cut off an ankle driving the bush hog?

What is this world coming to? FREEDOMZ!
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:52 PM
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Funny how Riot/Risk gets their proverbial tits caught in a vise when Ryan decides to wipe his asz with the Wisconsin state constitution, but defends the same actions on a federal level because they are democrats.
You mean Walker in Wisconsin? 23,000 job loss? in 2011?

My tits were pretty upset about the whole Patriot Act and Bush Tax cut signing thing. You missed that in favor of partisan assumption, huh?
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Seriously? The government has removed the deliberate laxity that long enabled children of 8-14 to get nicotine poisoning working the stripping shed, or to cut off an ankle driving the bush hog?

What is this world coming to? FREEDOMZ!
On a different subject, where do you stand on mandatory GMO labeling?

Are you disappointed that Barrack has not kept his promise?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...led.print.html

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Old 04-25-2012, 10:19 PM
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On a different subject, where do you stand on mandatory GMO labeling?

Are you disappointed that Barrack has not kept his promise?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...led.print.html
Like every single president in my lifetime, this one has broken campaign promises.

I'm quite familiar with DNA and how it works, so I don't have a silly gut fear reaction to "genetically modified" foods. That's how American Indians got corn to eat, after all; and the bananas everyone used to eat (we now have a different species, and that type of genetic modification, a lack of diversity, is what is a greater concern).

Yes, of course I have concerns about what can be done with modification. But I don't fear it irrationally simply as it exists. Genetic modification is what made the United States the breadbasket of the world in the last century, is what enables us to feed ourselves, and is what enables starving people in Africa to plant certain environmentally survivable wheat crops, etc.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:38 PM
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Like every single president in my lifetime, this one has broken campaign promises.

I'm quite familiar with DNA and how it works, so I don't have a silly gut fear reaction to "genetically modified" foods. That's how American Indians got corn to eat, after all; and the bananas everyone used to eat (we now have a different species, and that type of genetic modification, a lack of diversity, is what is a greater concern).

Yes, of course I have concerns about what can be done with modification. But I don't fear it irrationally simply as it exists.
It may in fact be safe. But I still think it should be labeled.

What the FDA has done is truly unbelievable. As if it isn't bad enough that companies don't need to put a GMO label on their product, the FDA has passed a law which outlaws eco-friendly companies from putting "non GMO" on their labels.

Is that unbelievable? If a company makes products that are not genetically modified, they are not allowed to tell people. The big companies know that some people would be more likely to buy products that are labeled "non-GMO", so the big companies pressured the FDA to ban small companies from labeling their products "non-GMO". That is one of the most outrageous things I have ever heard. It just shows how much influence these big companies have on policy.

http://www.naturalnews.com/029833_no...foods_FDA.html
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:41 PM
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It may in fact be safe. But I still think it should be labeled.

What the FDA has done is truly unbelievable. As if it isn't bad enough that companies don't need to put a GMO label on their product, the FDA has passed a law which outlaws eco-friendly companies from putting "non GMO" on their labels.

Is that unbelievable? If a company makes products that are not genetically modified, they are not allowed to tell people. The big companies know that some people would be more likely to buy products that are labeled "non-GMO", so the big companies pressured the FDA to ban small companies from labeling their products "non-GMO". That is one of the most outrageous things I have ever heard. It just shows how much influence these big companies have on policy.

http://www.naturalnews.com/029833_no...foods_FDA.html
when i read that taco bells 'meat' was less than half real meat, but could still be labelled as 'meat'-that told me all i needed to know about the fda.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:45 PM
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Rupert, you want to really get mad at Monsanto and the power these schmucks have over our food chain?

Their chemicals have been implicated in bee colony collapse disorder. Of course, if we lose bees, we lose ... everything.

There was an article on Daily Kos this past week: Monsanto bought up the biggest research company investigating bee colony collapse.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...-Research-Firm

I'm lucky I live in an agricultural area: I shop the local farmers markets, I buy what's in-season, even the Kroger has a locally-grown fresh section, and we have a huge choice of local produce co-ops.
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Rupert, you want to really get mad at Monsanto and the power these schmucks have over our food chain?

Their chemicals have been implicated in bee colony collapse disorder. Of course, if we lose bees, we lose ... everything.

There was an article on Daily Kos this past week: Monsanto bought up the biggest research company investigating bee colony collapse.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...-Research-Firm

I'm lucky I live in an agricultural area: I shop the local farmers markets, I buy what's in-season, even the Kroger has a locally-grown fresh section, and we have a huge choice of local produce co-ops.
Yeah it's sickening what's going on. Now there is a battle for the labeling of GMO foods.

That little sissy Bill Gates is pushing it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:31 AM
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Well, we can cheer for FREEEDOOMMMMMM some more. Thanks extensive lobbying by the Cattlemen's Assoc. and the dairy industry and pressure from the GOP, the Obama Administration has backed down.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/media/press/w...l/20120426.xml

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/big-ag-labor-thune/

What I find curious is, with unemployment so high, why Big Ag is so eager to continue employing teenagers.

Big Ag has also targeted proposed rules labeling meat's country of origin. Because you know, ignorance is freedom.
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Well, we can cheer for FREEEDOOMMMMMM some more. Thanks extensive lobbying by the Cattlemen's Assoc. and the dairy industry and pressure from the GOP, the Obama Administration has backed down.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/media/press/w...l/20120426.xml

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/big-ag-labor-thune/

What I find curious is, with unemployment so high, why Big Ag is so eager to continue employing teenagers.

Big Ag has also targeted proposed rules labeling meat's
country of origin. Because you know, ignorance is freedom.
maybe because a lot of crops are seasonal, kids are out of school during many crops' harvesting times. ever try to hire an adult for seasonal work? they tend to say no, as they want a permanent job, not a summer job.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:53 AM
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What I find curious is, with unemployment so high, why Big Ag is so eager to continue employing teenagers.
The same reason the Republicans want to repeal current child labor laws.
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